2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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    With a lineup of:

    Ball/KCP/Leonard/James/Howard

    We have plenty of shooting from 1-4. If we need more, pull in Kuzma off the bench, or Wagner, or Hart. The 5 doesn't need to be a shooter in the NBA. Capela can't shoot 3s, neither can Pachulia. But those guys rim protect and rebound very well, which opens up a transition game and easy opportunities on the other end. Lopez does not do either of those things well at all.

    If the Rockets go small with Tucker at the 5, or the Warriors put out the Hampton 5, what's to stop us from just sliding Leonard to the 4 and James to the 5? Throw in Kuzma or something and we're fine.
     
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    Cousins took 5.4 million for GSW?
     
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    I would over Dwight all day. At least I know McGee will come out competing rather than “trying to have fun”. GS trusted McGee enough to start him in the Finals.

    You don’t get traded to be waived for no reason. That’s just sad.
     
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    We had decent 3 point shooters. To put it into perspective...

    Hart - 39.6%

    Ingram - 39.0%

    KCP - 38.6%

    Kuz - 36.6%

    Add Wagner who shot 39.4% and 39.5% the last two seasons.

    Vs. the Rockets, who were elite had...

    Anderson - 38.6%

    CP3 - 38.0%

    Tucker - 37.1%

    Ariza - 36.8%

    Not a huge difference. Rather, we ran a pathetic offense. If we couldn't push the ball in transition, we would run a high PnR out top, which failed a lot of the time because that's the play NBA teams practice defending against the most. From there we just isolated Ingram or Kuzma and hoped for the best. In contract, the Rockets had superstars in Harden and Paul to attract defensive attention and get OPEN shots for their guys. James and potentially Leonard will do this VERY well.
     
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    He didn't fit in with the Nets rebuilding plans.
     
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    When did we get Leonard? Also, Howard as in Dwight Howard? No freakin way, that’s where we i get off at the station my friend. I’m still all in on Lopez, he’d essentially be the Kevin Love in this situation, McGee being the Tristan Thompson, one for each occasion. For small ball I’d think we’d use LeBron at the 5 to go against Tucker and Green, or we’d still sign someone via the vet min, maybe like the rumored Amir Johnson.
     
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    I'm assuming we trade for Leonard. And yes Dwight Howard. Better rim protection, defense, and rebounding than Brook Lopez.

    We don't want a Kevin Love. Look at how the Warriors exploited his bad defense in the finals. Ran a PnR so he switched onto Curry every time, who cooked him. He probably gave up more points on defense than he scored.

    We want someone like Capela. He can roll hard to the rim, catch lobs, block shots. He gave the Warriors fits. And that's Howard more than Lopez any day of the week.
     
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    Well, him being waived still counts against their cap space, just one less year than Moz.

    And what happened in Charlotte then? Why would they choose Moz over Dwight? What about Houston?

    Obviously somethings amiss there. Dwight just doesn’t have the motivation to compete, like, AT ALL. If we wanted him that badly, we would have signed him over McGee. I’m sorry, that shipped sailed a long time ago when he had his chance and he blew i.
     
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    Hornets are rebuilding as well. They will probably lose Walker either to a trade or FA the next year. That's why they cleaned house and hired Mitch.

    For Dwight, I explained the situation earlier. It parallels McGee's actually, as both are athletic and talented but mentally weak players.

    The trick with Howard is we have to make sure he's not trying to do too much. Javale had the same problem bouncing around from team to team. There was no structure or role for him, and the expectations were high. He's not mentally strong and faltered.

    But in GS, the culture and system was established. His job was to rim protect and grab boards. That's it. Don't worry about anything else, you have the all stars to take care of it for you. And he thrived under that support.

    We need to talk to Howard and do the same thing. If he wants to come back, fine. But his job is to only rim protect and rebound, while playing within the offense. He's not 25 anymore and will NOT get the ball in the low post every time he calls for it. Instead he's going to help us body up guys like Cousins, Davis, etc who will otherwise give us trouble in a 7 game series.
     
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    Lol. The Lakers are interested in Dwight?

    I'd seriously love if Dwight and IT would be coming to the Lakers... And Swaggy P. That'd be absolutely hilarious.

    We would be the ugliest, most unlikable, least intelligent, most egocentric and comical team ever essembled by a front office.

    That would be amazing.
     
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    I’m not assuming we trade for Kawhi, I think that ship has sailed. He’ll be traded elsewhere if anything, and he’ll have an opportunity to come here in 2019 if he wants to so badly thanks to all these 1 year deals we are doing. That’s another reason Brook is appealing, because I think he’d do a 1 year deal to stay here and see what happens. I’m also not thinking Finals right now, maybe pessimistic, but this team isn’t beating GS year one, we have mostly kids and they have 3 all-stars who have been there for years and years, 1 all-star who has been there for 2 years, and just added a 5th that will join them according to him, in December. If Kawhi joins us next summer, then we can start talking dethroning GS, and moving on from Lopez and looking at Capela type big men. But as of now I don’t have to repeat why I want Lopez, I said above all the skills he brings that we lack.
     
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    If we don't get Leonard, I'm fine to bring Lopez back on a 1 year deal. But I think we should pursue him this summer. LeBron's window is limited, and I'd rather compete when he's 34 rather than 38.
     
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    I mean I'm not giving you Defensive box plus minus or DRtg. I'm giving you old school blocks and blocks per game. It's not really debatable that Brook protected the rim when he's one of the leading shot blockers in the NBA. That's like saying a guy who scores 20 points a game isn't a scorer.
     
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    We're not signing Dwight. Lebron can't stand him and I don't think anyone in their right mind can. That ship sailed thankfully.
     
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    All I'm saying is there's not great stats to measure rim protection. Blocks are decent (KAT is one of the leaders in bpg, and he also plays no defense), but if you want to use that metric, Howard was 7th in the NBA in bpg, ahead of Lopez.
     
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    Rebuilding doesn’t include taking a worse contract in Mozgov...there were clear locker room issues and it was reported.

    The problem with Dwight is that he won’t listen. Every team has gone through this with him and he hasn’t changed one bit.

    Dwight couldn’t guard Davis or a healthy Cousins anyways.

    Listen, if Dwight could do what you’re saying he could, Golden State would’ve snatched him up straight away. Instead, they went with a guy who just tore his Achilles, with no guarantee that he will even come back 100%. Now what does that tell you. Come on man, take the hint, NO ONE wants Dwight anymore.
     
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    All I'm saying is it's worth an inquiry. Not that we give him a max contract right off the bat.

    GS didn't need him. They didn't even need Cousins. He called them and asked to sign for 5 million a year. Why would they say no to that?
     
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    But it’s not worth it. He’s a locker room cancer not worth bringing to our young squad. Magic wants players who compete night in and night out.

    GS didn’t need him? You’re contradicting yourself all over the place. You’re saying, if Dwight wanted to come for $5M, even if they thought they could “keep him in control” and play a role, they wouldn’t want that? Come on man.

    Charlotte rebuilding but the take on Mozgov’s longer contract? How is that rebuilding?
     
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    Howard is also a piece of crap and a distraction, but I would never question his talent. He sure is a rim protector. Funny you bring up Towns, but Towns played more than 1200 more minutes than Brook, but had less than 20 more blocks. Brook was far more effective protecting the rim. I'm not sure what you're looking for specifically in terms of a rim protector. Someone more athletic maybe?

    But Brook, looking at the market, is probably cheap, we're familiar with him, and he blocks a lot of shots. I honestly don't see the downside. I think it's a near perfect fit, maybe even an essential fit, with LeBron.
     
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    Mitch loves Mozgov, what can I say?

    And Dwight didn't want to come for 5M. We don't know that.
     
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