2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. therealdeal

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    He's taller and more defensive oriented. Bigs are always going to get paid in the NBA. Despite the move to smaller lineups, big men who can defend are a premium.

    Capela is probably 70% likely to get a max deal. Look at Biyombo as a recent comparison although that doesn't exactly help abeer's point.
     
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    I was once impressed with Whiteside... never wanted him though. Capela is not worth the max, team that pays him will regret it.
     
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    gsw has relatively made Capela and Gobert ineffective and in Capela case even more so do to his weak ft shooting
     
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    He's taller yes, but I don't agree he's more defensive oriented. Capela has more potential as a rim protector but Randle is the better defender in all other facets. More importantly though, Randle can stay on the floor when it matters most in the 4th quarter.
     
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    So yeah y'all right at max it's a no. But what if say 22.5 mill a year?

    I just think he would be a great fit next to a stretch 4. Thought Capela gave GSW fits and he was a monster on D imo. Could probably allow you to play Kuzma then at the 4. With Lonzo,PG and Ingram starting. Hart 6th man off the bench. Add the rookies if we don't end up unloading Deng.

    Capela would be like a tyson Chandler on Mavs but Capela has a better post game. Better defender switching on guards/wings.Lonzo our Jason Kidd orchestrator. I'm just saying that I'm intrigued y'all. Don't take me too serious, I rather have Lebron sign with PG and call it a day lol.
     
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    Capela brings nothing over Randle in terms of value proposition IMO.
     
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    Capela is without a doubt a more effective defender. There's no statistic at all where Randle has the edge over Capela defensively. Capela averaged more blocks and steals per game, more blocks and steals per 36, had a higher defensive rating, a higher defensive box plus/minus, better STL%, better BLK%, and more defensive win shares.

    Clint was 2nd in the league in total blocks and blocks per game. He was 3rd in the league in BLK%. He was 5th in the league in TRB%. He was 8th in overall rebounds (Julius was 17th) and 8th in rebounds per game.

    Clint was 1st in FG%, 1st in eFG%, 12th in PER, and 6th in TS%. Clint was 3rd Ortg and 4th in Drtg in the entire league. He was 11th in total Win Shares.

    Now I agree that Clint is a bit of a product of the system, but let's not downplay how well he played this year. He outplayed Julius in nearly every aspect and is a much more versatile defender than you're giving him credit for. If you watched the GS/Hou series, he was able to switch and effectively make the Warriors take difficult shots. That's invaluable.
     
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    As Lakerfilmroom and Darius Soriano recently speaked about it , the Lakers are missing a lob threat on the PNR and haven't had one since young and pre knee injury Bynum

    Since we are talking about Capela , he's very good at it ....


    Here it is
    https://www.forumblueandgold.com/2018/06/05/lakers-draft-needs/
     
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    yeah, i think the issue is fit with capela AND randle. if it's one or the other, i think you take capela in the modern nba. not by much, but you take him. i don't think the lakers are really in position to let randle walk, however, so maybe it's moot. though if no other signings occur, you can do worse than trying to figure out how to use those two guys.
     
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    does wonders for an offense. it's a big part of why houston struggled offensively without him, despite having two supreme iso scorers.
     
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    I thought Houston was easily at their best when Capela was playing in the playoffs. I wasn't expecting to think that, but I did. His ability to change shots at the rim and put pressure on the rim offensively really put fear in Golden State.
     
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    So Randle is out and Capella is in?

    :MagicmagicTW:
     
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    No not necessarily. Abeer and khmrp are right: Lakers are in a bit of a corner with Julius. There's a solid shot they lose him for nothing this summer just due to timing with George/LeBron. They'd be crazy to let him walk if he signs an early offer sheet, but that could be the cost of doing business.
     
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    I don't think we can afford wasting our time with Capela unless we don't have commitments from Lebron and George during the moratorium period.

    If we do miss out on the big names, do we resign Randle AND chase Capela? Or do you sign another KCP type of deal with another player and wait for 2019?
     
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    BDiddy...a backup point option and ring chaser once Bron/PG come on board???



    I see you TB! Get a jump on that chemistry for the 2nd/3rd unit.
     
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    :Laugh:
     
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    hasnt bdiddy been trying to get bsck into leage for last 4-5yrs with no success?
     
    Khmrp, Jun 6, 2018
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    I agree with Real about Capela vs Randle in a vaccum. But with money involved, I take Randle all day if Capela's getting the max. If Capela get's max, I think we could sign Randle and Lopez for Capela's max$$ (assuming Bron&PG are already here). Lopez spacing the floor and Randle's ability to grab and go coast to coast outweigh Capela's superior defense and lob threat, IMO.
     
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    Are odds to win the title/get Lebron are apparently going up





     
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