To Serve And Protect

20 shots.......

 

I'm not trying to insult those like Kuz who love to bring up the "better training" excuse, but I doubt they're aware that many police departments have spent thousands of dollars on training before these officers are even allowed to walk the streets with a badge in their hand. For example, every LAPD academy graduate costs the city of Los Angeles $250,000. How much more $$ are the taxpayers of Los Angeles supposed to pony up to pay for better training? Some people simply don't have what it takes to do police work.

 

You can have better training without spending more money.

 

You may be right in theory. But how? You're going to have to hire new people to implement these "improved" techniques to replace the old ones. These new instructors will obviously want to be paid more for their services. New technology costs more than old technology. Unless the LAPD is the last police academy in the country to adopt these techniques, they're probably going to have to pay a lot more $$ for early adoption.

Better training only works if the police officers are fit to do their job. I could hire Tim Grover to get me in the best shape of my life, but I still won't cut it as an NBA player. At some point, police apologists need to admit that some people shouldn't be cops.

 

Like any other situation in life, reprioritize the budget, fire those who aren't in alignment with the new philosophy and tactics and look for good examples elsewhere.

You could probably also scale back the amount of peace officers honestly. There are police agencies all across the US that have overlapping legal jurisdiction. Here in LA, we have LAPD, LACSD, CHP, UC Police, and Cal State Police.

And yes, some people aren't mean't to be police officers. Personally, I don't think you should be one if you aren't willing to take some risk with your life.

 

I agree with you about too many police officers and overlapping jurisdictions. I'm skeptical about the idea of a government agency "reprioritizing the budget" and cleaning house on their own. Government agencies and programs rarely do this unless they have a gun to their head. They often advocate for spending more of the taxpayer's money.

 

I’m a believer in training. I think training and by the right people teach us how to be calm and cool during time of chaos. But no amount of training will fix these types of situations. It’s literally on the fly, with only seconds to spare and for you to decide if the person has a weapon or not... and again, when a agency screws up, I’ll say the screwed up. Sacramento screwed up.

The family is gonna get it’s payday for their screwed up son. It’s becoming harder and harder to police, and situations like these, Where it gets turned into a racial/police brutality issue, doesn’t help.

 

I'm actually for more Police, especially in the areas that are riddled with crimes because of Gangs, drug presence, etc... Less police makes it much harder to keep any sort of tabs on these communities, its already hard enough.

But again, speaking from my agency, we're a well trained department that gets training in all kinds of things. Mental health, active shooter, scenarios, different use of force options. I swear we don't get paid enough for this job sometimes with all stuff we are trained in and the stuff we know. I'd say we're pretty good whether we decide if we're gonna press an issue. For instance:

We had a guy shooting off rounds in his house, we surrounded the house and tried to evacuate houses in the nearby area. We tried to get the guy to come out but he didn't, so we just backed out, left the area and kinda kept watch for the house to see if the guy would ever come out. There was really no reason to press the issue, he was dangerous if we pressed the issue, but not really placing others in danger, only damaging his own house. If we got into a gunfight with this guy, who knows who else was inside, and who was in the area that could be struck by stray bullets.

Police dept should really look into our program and get the training that we have.

 

I have a simple solution: all civil settlements need to come out of the department's budget. If it's their own budgets that risk getting cut by large settlements, you know darn well commissioners will lead the charge to clean up their forces. While LAPD and LASD can self-insure, smaller police departments should be allowed to buy insurance. Premiums paid are public as are all settlement numbers so we'd know what insurance companies think. LEO's who are convicted of felony crime(s) committed on the job should forfeit their entire pension. When it's their rice bowl that is directly threatened, they'll come around.

 

Crooked cops should probably face a publicly broadcasted firing squad on pay per view with proceeds benefitting the victims of the wrongdoing



Oh, and the ones firing the guns are the victims too. Preferably untrained so it takes several shots to get the job done.

I’m going back to sleep. That’s a really sick idea. I must be having a bad day.

 

That is not the solution to any problem. There is civil litigation against' police departments even when use of force was used reasonably. Every legitimate shooting has settlements because its cheaper to settle real quick rather than go through the courts and dish out more. Every use of force there is a civil suit waiting for the upcoming months. You'd bankrupt police dept's and probably the city. You'd have mass amount of police officers resigning because of that hostile environment and the areas that are already crime riddled with lack of personnel will suffer more. I understand where you're coming from, but that's not a solution, at all. You'll just make the career of law enforcement even less appealing, and less and less applicants, and less and less cops.

Even incidents such as the one in Sacramento... In the eyes of the law, its a legitimate shooting. They will not be criminally prosecuted. Aiming for their pensions, and police budgets? You'd just be crippling the police departments, and it'll create a chain effect where ultimately the citizens suffer.

 

What bothers me is that he did this in public view without any fear. As if he thought there would be no consequences for his actions.

 

Good thing this happened for the girl's sake. Who knows how long this has gone on in private. At least now with the public outrage, she knows she will have recourse if this is handled correctly (If she's paying attention)

However, at a young age my dad beat the crap out of me and left my backside full of bruises up and down my tailbone and back from kicking me since he had injured his shoulder. My brother saw the bruises, and said something. My dad asked me not to tell anyone, and to this day, I wish I had. The reality is the whole family would have benefited from him experiencing some consequences for his actions when he was out of control. But if no one says anything to someone that can do something, nothing ever happens. At least now there is video evidence.