2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. therealdeal

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    To us sure, but remember Boston is looking for a 1st for Smart right now and nobody in the main NBA media was laughing at them. I think Randle is undoubtedly more talented than Smart, but East Coast bias is real and given the Lakers' lack of success in the W column, people will hold that against Ju.

    Honestly I hope selfishly that his value is muted because it makes it more likely we can keep him. If we can lock him up for 4 years on a deal 15 mil or less, that's a huge win. I'm worried the Lakers strike out and then end up having to pay Julius 20+ million because of Dallas. That would really hurt our cap flexibility.
     
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    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

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    Yeah, but other than Dallas bringing back a hometown kid and Philly, none of those teams would really move the needle with Randle. Chicago, Dallas, Philly and ATL all can break the bank to get Randle (offering 20M per). But will Philly do that, or will they try to go for a more veteran presence and 2nd tier free agent or do they just find a stop gap like JJ and Amir and go for 2019? Chicago has the LaVine extension to cut into their space and that is why if they traded for Randle, they would be able to give both him and LaVine hefty raises. Now, I doubt they go after Jules with a 20M offer. But the Bulls are trying to move RoLo and if that happens and they get an expiring back then maybe.

    So it really just leaves Dallas imho and Jules going home makes a ton of sense for me. However will Cuban break the bank to get him? The way Cuban has worked in the past tells me he won't (see Noel and how Parsons burned him). Dallas would literally have to renounce their 5 free agents and throw all their cap at Jules to get him at 20M. Which is why its better to trade for him and his rights so that they have more flexibility. Look at it this way, with all the teams that have cap, only the Lakers will have the most and are willing to go into the luxury tax to become competitive. Trading for Randle eliminates us from throwing money at him, so Cuban can get Randle for relatively cheap (contract wise) if he trades for him.

    Also Randle is a RFA, so teams know they would have to tremendously overpay for us not to match. Even if Randle is considered not to be a long term fit, we would match knowing he's an asset that could be moved at a later time.
     
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    We will need to put some money into the backup pg spot this offseason. There is some sort of cap exception that we could use. Maybe resign Randle, sign PG13, resign Lopez to 8 million per and then use that exception to get the backup pg. But looking at the free agent pg list, it's really ugly.
     
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    Sure sounds like Cuban is gearing up for a trade.

    Also...



    And Smart to Denver is being discussed. Boston still wants a 1st for him.
    Willy Hernangomez wants either more playing time or wants out of NY.
    Chicago is putting Robin Lopez, Allen, Nelson on the trade block.
     
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    There's been too many nationally televised games to mute his value I think :D Randle will demand around $20M on the market but we might be able to negotiate a bargin if we act fast.
     
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    20 mill is absurd, I doubt even Gordon gets max and he's done even more than randle so far.
     
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    Along this train of thought:

    Cleveland offered their 1st, Frye, and JR Smith for DeAndre Jordan.

    1) that's an awful offer, even for an expiring DJ
    2) this tells me they have no idea what they're doing
    3) it seems like we're not going to be able to get something done if this is their asking price.
     
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    I'd like us to get Hermongomez, i think he's just scratching his surface too, at least from last yr I thought he has potential to be like Brook but more mobile, he has decent 3pt shot if wide open. I know his brother (in den) seems to always light us up to when we played them. I'd offer them Zu, nyk seems like a good fit for him along with Porzingis
     
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    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    Loudly gauge interest. I want to hear the offers.

    We're also "quietly gauging interest" in Deng.
     
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    ...zero for them and zero for us. :)
     
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    well, at least anderson plays. i'm curious as to what they're trying to do. seems odd to mess with a roster that's on pace to probably finish second (or first) in the league. i mean, why try to dump salary now unless, i don't know, you know something...
     
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    If those 3 detestable players get together in Houston it's totally OK for wishing major injuries CP2 style at crucial points in the playoffs for ever more to all of them ... Clipper style.

    :SadPau2:
     
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    eh, morey/dantoni/harden/paul is enough to open the ill-wishing floodgates for me. but i think they feed off my negative energy. i'm pretty sure they're satan incarnate as a basketball team already, just waiting to fulfill some awful prophecy...and flames shall consume them from the threepoint line, the rivers will run red with the blood of the concept of defense, and...taco bell and insurance...
     
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    2019 plan!!!!

    Almost as good as the 2018 plan. Stop having an insert year here plan FFS. Morons.
     
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    If true, all i can say is "LOL".
     
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    Makes more sense to wait actually

    No need to be in a hurry to make bad decisions

    Plan B: wait a year for better FA’s, and expiring contracts, and Deng’s final year

    With the youngins playing better, it doesn’t sound horrible

    I’d rather wait a year than sign LLLLL quite honestly
     
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    Honestly it sounds like it sucks, but as long as we keep showing promise like we have been lately we will be okay. We are still going to have money to spend, and that is another year closer to Deng being gone. Embrace the youth and get Randle signed.
     
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    lol. of course. not like we couldn't see this coming...before our front office did.

    none of this is wrong (though now paying randle anything cuts into space for 2019, rinse and repeat). and if 2019 was always the year, the russell trade makes even less sense. why not just have the 2020 plan (which, i think was closer to watch mitch was thinking)? never have to dump deng or mozgov and have a fully rookie contract cycle to evaluate all draftees. if we hated russell, we probably could have moved him by himself for picks or a useful veteran player on a reasonable contract.

    so, whether 2019 is better or not (it's not; it's the same. in the time between now and then, the big names will be off the board...again), the point is that the 2018 plan has always been pretty bad.
     
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