Star Wars Thread (a Galaxy Far Far Away) Obi-Wan Movie In The Works! (36)

This is IMO an extremely well written piece on the Luke controversy by Joseph Gordon Levitt. He’s not out to change anyone’s mind, he just gives a very well thought out perspective on it, and I found it a very good read

 

Joseph Gordon-Levitt is now dead to me.

But in all honesty, what did you expect? The dude is good friends with Rian Johnson and has a cameo in the film. I know he addresses it, but it's pretty hard to separate it.

His points are well taken, and I get how someone can feel that way. But there were ways to make him complex and not perfect without going to that extreme. Make him question things. Make him sad. Make him a failure in his mission to restart the Jedi. But don't take it to the point to where he gives up and runs away to die.

 

Yeah, totally get it, I just thought it was a good read. Movie still works big for me, and I think is the best one since the originals, possibly with time even has a chance for me to be only behind Empire. Luke’s arc works for me so well, and it chokes me up every damn time, his final scenes are absolutely beautiful stuff. This guy puts my feelings better than I ever could, one of the best takes I’ve heard. I expect no one to change their mind here though, and again, that’s ok, they’re movies, it’s just entertainment

 

Well now I like Rian Johnson even more. Didn’t think that was possible.

 

I had very little interest in this before. After this teaser, interest is rising. Looks like at the very least it’s going to be beautiful and fun. Lando looks sweet, Flacon looks clean, some beautiful shots here, love the Han starting with the Empire thing, sticking to some old legends material. Looking forward to the longer trailer tomorrow.

 

Visuals looks tremendous. Einrich and Glover don't look like exact replicas, but that's okay as long as they fit the roles. I'm eager to see some actual dialogue/footage. This definitely got me back on board.

 

Based on that trailer, Einrich is a terrible Han Solo. I'm not even sure I want to see this in the theater at this point. His voice is too high. I can't even force myself to see him as Han. This isn't Last Jedi hate spilling over. This just looked weird. The visuals looked very good. But damn. Why cast someone as Han Solo that doesn't look like him, sound AT ALL like him, doesn't have the mannerisms of him...I feel like you could have given me a few weeks to work on my "Han" and I could have been just as convincing.

 

I agree he doesn't look or sound like Ford, but honestly that doesn't bother me IF he works in the movie. I don't want a Harrison Ford imposter or impersonator, I want Han Solo and I am at least open to it. This clip didn't kill it for me, but it didn't get my hopes up either. It's impossible to erase 40 years of Harrison Ford from your mind in a 1:30 clip so hopefully it's easier in the movie.

Everything else looks fantastic. I love the Kessel Run. I love Glover's Lando. I love the aesthetic. I love the feel that the movie gives off which is just a swashbuckling space adventure.

I'm now actually excited about the movie which I didn't think was possible, but it looks fun. I'd like to see a trailer that's not so generic soon though. The dialogue was worse to me in the trailer than anything to do with Alden or the visuals.

 

I think the problem is Han is Ford. Han Solo isn't like Batman where he has existed in a bunch of different mediums (before the first Star Wars movie) and looked different and been tons of different people. The things we like about Han Solo, the wry smiles, the confused looks, the comedic timing...those are all Harrison Ford. They aren't Han Solo character traits that Harrison Ford was trying to emulate. Disney never should have tried this movie. I hated the idea from the second they announced it. But Kasdan really wanted to do this project, and Kathleen Kennedy probably thought having one of the main creative people behind the original trilogy work on another movie can't go wrong.

 

That would be exactly what I wouldn't want: a guy acting as Harrison Ford instead of a guy acting as Han Solo.

 

That's the whole problem though. Harrison Ford = Han Solo. You can't separate the two. Like I said in my last post, this isn't a character like Batman where we have had several versions. Up until now Han Solo has always looked like and acted like Harrison Ford.

 

Eh. That's some "get off my lawn talk" honestly. These characters are going to be rebooted and reimagined, it will happen. You better believe the Indiana Jones reboot is coming.

The difference is this one is actually going to stay true to a given timeline and an established universe as opposed to Batman that just reboots basically with every iteration of the character. As long as this doesn't step on the toes of the OT, I have no major problem with another actor representing the character. This is Han before we know him in the OT. Who is to say Alden's mannerisms aren't more like what Han acted like as a younger man? Are all your mannerisms exactly the same now as they were 10-15-20 years ago? As long as Han keeps some of the same mannerisms and character traits, I'm open to it. I wasn't exactly calling for this movie, but it looks fun to me.

The voice will be harder for me to adjust to than anything else, but even your voice changes over time.

 

Han Solo was 29 in A New Hope. He's supposedly in his early 20's in Solo. We all change through our 20's, but he ain't going to change that much. And yes, most people I have known for 10+ years have the same mannerisms and traits they always did. They change as people, but they still walk the same, react the same way to things. I've had friends that I've been friends with for decades and I can still see those same reactions they had in high school. They may be hidden under more facial hair and the wear and tear of being almost 40, but they're there. And I don't see it as "Get off my lawn talk" at all because the reason the character of Han Solo is successful is because it was Harrison Ford. This isn't a remake of Psycho where Norman Bates only works because of Anthony Perkins. If they rebooted the TV show House with someone else playing him other than Laurie, it'd be idiotic.