2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. tada

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    Like refusing to get on a plane to OKC? :D
     
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    ^ yep. Stevie Franchise style...
    ;) :D
     
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    sadly, it is. nobody will trade for a guy who says they specifically do not want to play there. george could have said that and didn't. thus: not hell-bent. people are talking about okc's struggles, but they employ last year's mvp, will be in the playoffs, and didn't just lose to lillard-less blazers at home.
     
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    So people think it is “easy” for a player to be completely unprofessional and act like a baby by saying he won’t play anywhere but LA? George did everything he could to get here without being a completely unprofessional jerk. Reports were that his agent told teams he was a rental. What is he supposed to do? Threaten to not report? I wouldn’t want a baby like that anywhere near my team.
     
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    yes, we do. because we've observed it over and over again? when george moved to okc, he was talking about the possibility of a long-term situation. he could have been non-commital like howard was in la, for example. i think the lakers wanted him to appear hell-bent, but he wasn't. he was just interested. he'll be interested in okc, cleveland, and houston, too.
     
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    Did you forget even teams like CLE were being told that PG would be a rental? I’d rather never tell someone to act like Dwight Howard.
     
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    or KG
     
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    A short listen about Deng, Clarkson, and a little Randle and whether we keep them until summer. All signs point to yes



    Also, for the first time ever, actually hearing the prospect of LeBron playing with Lonzo, George, Ingram, Kuzma and whoever excited me. The idea of striking out in free agency is much more frightening than rooting for LeBron. And these guys, like realdeal has said, aren’t sure George would come join this group of kids without another star.
     
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    2019 plan activate!
     
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    Speaking about Lebron. I'm excited about the possibility but then again know how big of a chicken he is....why would he leave the cakewalk that is the Eastern conference for the West?
     
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    Clearly you didn’t listen as the audio is 15 mins long and instead chose to reply with your typical negative for negative sake comment. The point Trevor and Harrison make is that the Lakers have no incentive to trade JC or Randle now. Both can help us win games now, and if we dump them and don’t get anything valuable back we will really suffer having to play Ennis and Caruso more. The Lakers believe they can move JC in the summer, as in if they get word from LeBron to start making room, they do it then. Same with Randle, why trade him when if you strike out in free agency (or even if you don’t) you may want to retain him. Again, same with Deng, we don’t need to stretch him until we have exhausted all other options. The 2018 plan is fully alive, the point is the moves to make it happen don’t need to be made in February.
     
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    I think we can still do the 2018 plan even after moving JC/Randle in February for expirings/picks. If it can net us some draft picks (which is easier to move in June) I'd rather have that
     
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    In terms of wins, I'd rather have Randle than just a draft pick. The problem is, I'm worried about losing Randle for nothing in July when I could have maybe got something for him in February. It might be worth the risk though if we strike out hard in FA.

    Harrison brings up a point that some of us have been saying though: if you wait until the summer not only will you find teams are less inclined to help you get LeBron, but they're also probably offering less anyway as it is. You might be able to get a 1st for Clarkson in February, but a 2nd in July.
     
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    I listened, do you honestly believe everything happens to the T that mgmt legitimately creates 2 max space? I dont
     
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    Lakers waive Deng.
    Lakers renounce rights to Randle, Lopez, Pope, Brewer, Ennis, Bogut, and one of Bryant or Zubac.

    Lakers have 58 million available which is the exact amount of room needed for George and Cousins. Literally two max slots doing nothing but what they have under their own power.

    Try again.
     
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    Then why does that report say la has to move jc for no contract back as well? N this site states la needs to move jc as well
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndic...t-superstars-in-2018-nba-free-agency.amp.html
     
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    I can do the math for you if you want.

    Jordan Clarkson- 12.5 million
    Luol Deng- 7.362 million
    Lonzo Ball- 7.46196 million
    Brandon Ingram- 5.75712 million
    Larry Nance- 2.272391 million
    Kyle Kuzma- 1.68984 million
    Josh Hart- 1.65516 million
    Thomas Bryant- 1.378242 million
    Cap Holds- 3.26 million
    Total- 43.34 million

    Remainder= 57.66 million

    Some cap shuffling gets you the extra .34 million you need. The estimates people are using is based off of the percentages that players make as max deals (25%, 30%, or 35%) but the contracts always come out slightly lower than that total due to the legislation behind the contract. So instead of 25.2 million, 30.3 million, or 35.35 million, the deal is more likely to be something like 24 million, 29 million, and 34 million.

    Waive Bryant too if you have to, but again all within the confines of what the Lakers can do themselves. And if push come to shove and you have to trade Clarkson, all you have to do is send him out for less than 12.5 million back and you've got room for two max deals. You could trade him for Jared Dudley or Al Jefferson for all it matters and you'd clear up enough 1-2 million extra just in case, but that's really a "just in case".
     
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    In the big meeting....


    "Guys, there's stuff I can't tell you...."

    :Lukewaltonlook:

    We're going to sign and trade Julius to Cleveland for Bron.
     
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    Offer them Luol Deng and a 1st round pick
     
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    and theyll laugh at you
     
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