2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. Khmrp

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    Those turds and this team declined at the same time and now look at where this team is vs them....they're perenial ECF candidate with multiple lottery picks coming their way, while we bout to repeat last yrs record with no picks.
     
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    If we get PG, it'll be a turning point back towards the playoffs. I do worry that he could love playing with westbrook and they make a great duo though. OKC is going to have a really nice defensive dynamic this year and I think PG really improves their offense. Russ, Roberson, PG, Patterson & Adams.

    In my opinion, they are one solid player away from contending over there, one of the premier 3&D SG's would round out their roster really well. Klay Thompson would be ideal for them while damaging GSW, Danny Green would be great or maybe they can swing a trade for Avery Bradely, Smoking Joe Ingles or Ariza. If Roberson learns to shoot as well, they could be really good.
     
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    They did the right thing by trading their old trash and robbed a very stupid new owner ...

    We didn't and stayed in a delusional world , we're still in it btw .. thinking we're recuiting movie stars and not B-ball players
     
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    Dam, wonder if Magic/Rob even considered being part of that 3 way with Den/LAC.......we could've absorbed crawford/stone with that 18' 1st would've been useful for other things, I know Atl is buying crawford out and he might come here anyways but that 18' 1st would've been nice, real cost wasn't much in the end if we were still looking for big 1 yr contracts
     
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    Casspi signed with the Dubs for 2 millions ...
     
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    So far the "great plan" had us traded DLO for a one year Lopez rental. If Grorge shows us the middle finger next year, we're effed... and let's just put that Bron, Russ pipe down.
     
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    Concerning all this plan talk,

    "The plan" is the exact same plan every team that is a bottom team in their conference has, ie develop the youth they get from the lottery, and try to lure top players to the team. It's not unique. It's not some weird plan that only the Lakers are using. It's THE way a team comes up without a prolonged time wallowing in mediocrity. I know trading Dlo in the manner they did put a bad taste in some of your mouths but Dlo was one player, and honestly, do you really think he would have been the key to winning a championship any time soon?

    It was a weak list of free agents this summer, and we aren't in a good position to sign any big names anyway, so yes, we'll have to wait a year to be in a better position to sign big names.

    Mitch and Jim tired their hand at it and failed. Rob and Magic haven't even tried yet. All they've been doing since getting the job is positioning the Lakers for a go at free agency. They are not Mitch and Jim, so it just seems very unfair to not at least give them a chance to successfully pull off luring top players to the team before calling for their heads.

    There's just this weird doomsday vibe in here for no reason IMO. We got the #2 player in the draft, and one of the top players in the NBA saying he's coming here next summer, and still reportedly saying it after being traded to a better team. We never had that under Mitch and Jim. What is there to be so negative about?

    The West is just too stacked, so this year could only be about developing our youth anyway, so let's just ride it out and see what happens.
     
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    The question is next year who's capped out, also who has the great amount of financially flexibility to add superstars like we do. I like our chances next year with magic, Rob, and Luke at the healm
     
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    The pb is the development of the young players hasn't been good because :

    1) They might be not good enough
    2) The right players have not been signed to help it /Kobe BS farewell didn't help

    DAR was never able to perform with the right floor spacing , it will be the same for Lonzo this season
     
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    this is a large part of it. really, the timing of the russell move seemed totally bizarre given that it wasn't immediately followed by a big splash.

    and russell wasn't developed. he was tossed into a bad situation like the rest of our young players. he out-performed most players at his age, position, and experience level, and we're being asked to buy into the fact that he was a draft bust whose off-court issues were hurting the team.

    we'll see. if they were right, i'll give them their credit, but man if they weren't, they're really bad at this.

    as far as being a key piece in winning a championship anytime soon...can you say that for anyone on the roster? why not trade them all for cap space? i'm sure ingram could have rid of us of deng and the #2 pick would have gotten us paul george.

    people are upset because it's another 20-win season, and this time there's no draft pick to watch.


    this is all true, but again, we just traded our highest performing young player to move a contract.

    capped out didn't matter when houston traded for chris paul before he even hit FA.
     
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    I have said as early as 2015, that we're on a 2020 plan towards being back to contending for titles and I stand by that. We have to be patient and not panic. Our young core will be in their early to mid 20's, while Steph, KD and Lebron will be in their early to mid 30's. With our core it's simply not our time. But it will be, and soon.
     
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    And it's going to be fun to watch them develop too.
     
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    Yes it is. There's no doubt in my mind that Ingram and Ball will be stars in this league for years to come. Watching their games grow will be fun to watch.
     
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    We've heard the exact same thing about DAR over and over and over, but only the other players and FO know the severity. They said he wasn't a leader, and that he wasn't liked by the league. I know that might sound nebulous, but considering what Metta and Magic said about him, the fact that we couldn't get much for him in trade, and rumors about his worth to other FOs across the league, that seems to be the truth at this time.

    It sucks, but it's not the same as Ingram, or Ball's current value. We as fans see the talent in Dlo and want him to be in the same catagory, but he just isn't that valued across the league because of the Nick Young incident and it seems just his personality, so we got what we could get for him. That's not the way we wanted it to be, but that's the way it is.

    We haven't even seen what comes of the cap space we acquired yet, so how can it be judged as a negative against Rob and Magic? If they flip that cap space into two All Star level players, and contend for a title then it certainly will have been worth it. We just have to wait and see.
     
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    Not going to knock "the plan" until we strike out next year, which I don't think will happen.
     
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    Fair enough. It seems like there's a decent split between the Russell trade and the plan in itself as to why some fans are upset. I understand being upset about the Russell trade, I was too at first, but I think part of that is because we built unfair expectations on what we saw this summer. We thought we were getting Paul George, so I figured trading Russell meant getting back a young superstar in his prime... Well turns out the Pacers are stupid and vindictive and we weren't getting Paul George no matter what, so it really didn't matter. We did however get a great return for Russell all things considered. Not only did we dump a giant contract for an expiring, but that expiring is a damn solid player and we got a 1st round pick to boot. That's pretty crazy for a kid with a shaky reputation on and off the court. I hope he does well in Brooklyn. I'm not positive Russell ever realizes his potential, but I hope this move shakes him up enough to get there.
     
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    I don't know what you did with your formatting @abeer3 :D

    But-

    No draft pick? I'm pretty sure we've got a 20ish page thread on a draft pick we just got. He starts playing on Friday. Heck there were four draft picks a couple weeks ago. We've got plenty of young kids to watch. Maybe we just don't have the draft pick you like?
     
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    I'll venture to say this about the doomsday crowd.... you are not a special Snowflake.

    All teams go through losing periods.

    Quit crying over your Snowflake NBA god, he's been traded. Good riddance!
     
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    What are you talking about? This quasi-political stuff is really unnecessary.

    And while I'm not a big Russell fan, I asked the question on why people are upset for a reason. Not everyone is upset because Russell was traded and even if they were, they're allowed to be upset. If we traded Lonzo, would you be happy about it?
     
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    Funny thing is some are arguing how we have too many young kids yet are also complaining how we don't have a draft pick next year.

    I for one am tired of draft picks and I'm just looking forward to watching Ingram, Zubac, Lonzo, Kuzma, Hart, Bryant, etc develop. You could even put a guy like Randle in there, exciting times ahead.
     
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