2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by LaVarBallsDad, Jan 5, 2017.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    Durant I'm sure is going to take less than the max so they can try to keep as many people around. Steph will get the max I'm sure. Dude has been on the discount rate the last few years. I also don't think it will be an instance where the GSW FO will have to ask Durant to take less, he'll be the one to offer.

    But overall, YES, GSW will have a huge luxury tax the next 4-5 years if not more.
     
  2. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Like I've said, Durant AND Curry will have to take significantly less to keep the crew around. We'll see if it happens. I doubt it, but if they can get 2-3 more years of what they have now, it'll be worth the money.

    In two years Klay is a FA.
     
  3. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,405
    Likes Received:
    60,580
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
    Klay's Pop can play the same role in bringing Thompson to Lakers that Kobe will play in bringing in Paul George. :Jacksnicker: FA's want to be here now, right? :Magic Brows:
     
    Battle Tested20 likes this.
  4. ZenMaster

    ZenMaster - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    6,023
    Likes Received:
    13,382
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    There already was a report (not sure how reliable) that KD would be willing to take less.
     
  5. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,714
    Likes Received:
    23,772
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    about 4 million less
     
  6. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I know. How much less? Enough to pay Iguodala and Livingston? Enough for Curry to get the max? Enough for Klay to get his raise in two years?

    Durant is due for the 35% max which starts around 34 million. Curry is due for a big pay increase after taking the discount rate before, his max is 30% which starts around 29 million. The cap hold for Livingston is just under 11 million and the cap hold for Iguodala is 16.7 million. I think both Livingston and Iguodala can easily find that on the open market for at least one year, probably more.

    Altogether that's 90.7 million (over the cap) in just those four players.

    If the Warriors keep just the other contracts they have, they're at 129 million already. That doesn't include bringing back guys like West, McGee (who is almost assuredly going to get paid elsewhere this summer), Clark, Pachulia, and Matt Barnes. That is obviously way, way over the luxury tax threshold of 111 million. Since they're over 5 million dollars over the threshold, they're going to have to pay up to 2.5 dollars per dollar over the threshold. They'd land probably somewhere near 140 million meaning they'd pay up to 4.75 million dollars to the dollar.

    Trying to keep everyone around this summer they could potentially owe between 70-90 million dollars in luxury tax. That's before they have to increase the pay for Klay in two years.

    Something is going to give eventually. I'm not naive enough to think the Lakers are a legitimate destination for Klay Thompson today, but he will almost assuredly look at the FA market in two years to see if he can get paid. In fact, I wouldn't be outright shocked if they traded him this summer in order to avoid having to pay him.

    If they all take significantly less... they'll still have to pay the repeater and it'll still get very, very costly. It's possible the Warriors are the team to buck the trend, but nobody has been willing to pay that much as a team or take that little as a player for a long period of time in order to win titles.
     
    Barnstable, LTLakerFan and ZenMaster like this.
  7. Barnstable

    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2014
    Messages:
    7,269
    Likes Received:
    18,611
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    Well said.

    And that's exactly why it's not as far out an idea that we might be able to trade for Klay as people might think.

    The Warriors know they can't afford all those stars if they are all Maxed. Of that group, I'd argue that Klay is the odd man out, if for no other reason than the timing of when his contract is up.

    If the Warriors do want to trade, what would they want? Young talented players that can grow on the team that are on friendly contracts.... and the fact that they already have a few years of experience playing in a similar system under Luke, the Warriors former Assistsnt Coach, wouldn't hurt.

    Also, if this scenario doesn't play out early, I think Moz/Deng's contracts would be close to expiring right around the time Klay's is, so GS would only be on the hook for a year before all that money freed up. So some combination of Dlo, Randel, Deng, for Klay might get it done.

    It might not ever happen, but the concept is not pipe.
     
    therealdeal and sirronstuff like this.
  8. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'll move this suggestion to this side but I suggested moving Deng and the #28 or Deng a future protected 1st/future 2nds to the Kings in exchange for a couple of their expiring deals.

    Why the Lakers do it:
    - Shed Deng's contract
    - Shed the guaranteed money of a 1st round pick
    - Free time/space for other players
    - Do we need more reasons? C'mon.

    Why the Kings do it:
    - They're waaaaay under the salary floor, let along the salary limit. If you don't include Afflalo (non-guaranteed), Tolliver (non-guaranteed), and Rudy Gay's impending opt-out the Kings sit at just 42,283,532 million dollars. They need 40 million just to reach the salary floor. With their incoming 1st rounders, they're looking at somewhere near 55 million and still in need of a lot of salary with nobody incoming in FA. Why not spend on a veteran who can help the team and literally can't escape their clutches like Rudy Gay is about to?
    - We're offering them another young piece to add to their shaky young core. The owner is very much enamored by Hield, but nobody else is really anymore. He looks average at best. Cauley-Stein looks okay, but he's got a limited ceiling. Labissiere showed real promise, but he was woefully inconsistent.
    - They need a culture reset. For his faults, Deng is a good person. They need good people in Sacramento to wash out the Boogie smell.
     
  9. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,604
    Likes Received:
    76,899
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    So we'd be doing THEM a favor, right?

    :Noddingyes: :Laugh:
     
    Weezy and lakerjones like this.
  10. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    [​IMG]
     
  11. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,684
    Likes Received:
    31,791
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    I'd love to pick up Afflalo in that deal.
     
  12. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
  13. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,585
    Likes Received:
    37,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    Wow, both have some rather huge flaws but they are their cornerstones at the moment.
     
  14. JLaker17

    JLaker17 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    2,298
    Likes Received:
    5,825
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    If we can get rid of Deng or Mozgov somehow then this offseason will be a success.
     
  15. SFGOLDRUSHER

    SFGOLDRUSHER - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    2,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master Optimist.
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    We can do it, possibly both.. just depends on what we wanna give up to do so.
     
    Barnstable likes this.
  16. OmarE

    OmarE - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2014
    Messages:
    2,752
    Likes Received:
    7,340
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim, CA
    Offline
    I would offer Deng, 28th pick, jc and future picks for Drummond see if they bite
     
  17. KB24

    KB24 Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    3,159
    Likes Received:
    8,286
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Certified Tax Advisor
    Location:
    Germany
    Offline
    I would offer Deng and #28 for anything that is less expensive for less years than Deng.
     
  18. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,124
    Likes Received:
    18,496
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    I'll look at a list. There might be some S&T options. But the one that stands out off the top of my head is one we have discussed here for months: Rudy Gay. He's got one year left.
     
    alam1108 likes this.
  19. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,124
    Likes Received:
    18,496
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    We probably have the resources to dump Deng, Mozgov, and add some quality players now. We might ve able to get good enough to make it obvious to PG that he should come here. But we should be willing to consider moving all the pieces that don't fit in order to get that done.
     
  20. OX1947

    OX1947 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2016
    Messages:
    8,276
    Likes Received:
    17,604
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Would rather overpay one of these guys than the ones we have.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page