Tank Tank Or Tank Tank Tank?

If we're serious about tanking, how about re-signing Anthony Brown?

 

You dont give up 2 1st rd pick for 36yr old with back issues....i know he made the all-star gm the season prior but that wasnt a good risk. Mitch and co never respected 1st rd picks during/after phil era. I remember we were the 1st team to use a 1st pick to dump expiring (sasha trade to nets) when the trend back then was team were getting 1st rd picks for expiring deals

 

Oh, this was Classic, Sirron!

 

meh, hindsight bias weighs too heavily here. allstar the previous season, other stars already in place. likely late first rounders. made a lot of sense.

 

I meant the weird combination of rules and conditions. How us getting our 2017 pick influences the 2019 pick and such...

Sounds like a convoluted things a gambling addict would made up to spice things up a little.

 

1 1st wouldve been fine, mitch caved, was actually 4 picks, 2 2nds as well

 

It's more about the lack of protection on the picks rather than the picks themselves. The protection was far too generous for the player we were getting back. That's the big problem.

 

I just don't think it can be spun as if Mitch was in control and had things going to plan through all this. He (and Jim) signed off our picks fully expecting that we would compete at a level that would ensure we would lose them. We had no guarantee for top 3 picks the last few years (55% in '15 and 37% in '16). Injuries and lotto luck got us our picks. Had it gone Mitch's way we'd have uninjured Kobe and Nash (Howard would still walk) and we'd compete and be a (at very best) borderline 8th seed playoff team. We'd have no picks at all and FA's would be even harder to pull in after Kobe and Nash left.

No, we were lucky, like Jerry Buss lucky to get the picks we did. I almost feel like Jerry was sprinkling some poker-player faerie dust on the lotto machine for us. Let's hope he can do that one more time for us come June.

 

hmmm...interesting take. not sure howard leaves is kobe and nash don't get hurt. it would have been a pr nightmare, and the guy has no backbone. the fans and media were ready to throw him a parade when he went to houston; i'm just not sure that happens if he leaves a winning laker team.

another counter is that our picks haven't seemed to yield us a star, so it's kind of a wash in that regard.

anyway, again, i think it's really easy to second guess things now. if ingram ends up being a bench player, i'm sure everyone will say it was OBVIOUS we should have traded him and whatever else to get cousins a couple weeks ago.

 

Dwight walked out on a prime, healthy James Harden and even took a pay decrease by opting out. He wouldn't walk on old ball-hogging Kobe and old Nash? This is a 29pt/6reb/7.5asst/1.7 steals Harden we are talking about. Howard was out of LA and Mitch and Jim held the FA meeting with him. He displayed the no-backbone here but 5x with Harden. he was supposed to be leaving LA for basketball reasons. Howard is a bonified coward. Gutless and heartless, I don't lament the loss one bit.

Our picks are too new to evaluate as to what their final "values" are. If we don't have stars then why were Sac hot for Ingram(+another)/Cousins, clearly BI has some value out there because people realize it's absurd to expect much out of the kid @19 with his workload. Julius was a double-double out of the gates and pops high scoring near-triple-doubles here and there I wouldn't write him off as no chance at the all star game one day. Russell is same, just turned 21 has a lot to shore up, only gets 27 mpg , sometime pops huge nights. That's what I look at are those spikes, those big nights, because sooner our later those are going to be a common occurrence rather than the exception. And again, youth:

James Harden @ 21 years old 2nd season
12 pts 3.1 reb 2.1 asst - 26.7 minutes
D'Angelo Russell @ 21 years old (6 mos younger, also 2nd season)
14.8 pts. 3.7 reb 4.8 asst - 27.1 minutes

I wouldn't get too excited about Harden's 2nd season stats either. Our guys are too young and were put into strange circumstances. In DAR's & Julius' (1st real year) first year they dealt with The Kobe Farewell Tour, then the firing of the coach and subsequent change in coach and systems. Now they have the firing of the front office and new management (and ownership who are engaged in war in the media) + they have an FO who clearly, for this year, are in full tank mode. This is a bad recipe for stability for a young crew. These guys are going to take extra time to come out of it as a result. The FO MO right now is: "We want you to get the best out of these kids and help them grow but we don't want you to win". I don't know how this can be healthy for anyone. There is a light at the end of the tunnel but it's not even on yet, it'll hopefully click on this June-July.

 

It wasn't his choice to be here, Howard walked as soon as he had a chance in FA. You wish we had him back so he could walk again? We were 45-37, (0-4) in the first round. Dwight walked on Harden. I understood his jump to Houston, but not leaving them. Again, gutless and heartless, not missed

 

I think mitch/jim over shot on the coward and didnt read the situation correctly, we had multiple reports about his locker room antics (pointing to stat sheet and saying kobe shot this much, etc) plus the possible fighting. They shouldve cut their loses, not sure how legit the gsw trade rumor were but i couldve sworn klay was involved, man hindsight dude

 

Dude Mitch did what he did best ... trading "late" 1st round picks were his bread and butter move... well until it didn't work anymore and blew up in his face and ultimately cost him his job. That's life.

Mitch didn't INNOVATE!

 

Funny over on LeftistGround I actually started a thread a month before the trade deadline saying the Lakers should TRADE HIM. Hilarious how some educated fans can see the writing on the wall and yet management was ignorant of it.

 

Yea hindsight for sure on my part....sad part is we gave up less for Coward than Nash lol