wow. i knew we were heading for another pau situation here... kinda surprised the lakers value ingram that highly. they must be certain that cousins is a major problem, personality-wise. we'll see who was right in the long run.
This was all about Sacramento's inability to keep him - and we could have done better. The question is whether we could re-sign him, but given the salary considerations around him, I think we could have. Shame we didn't get it done. So...what's next? Drummond - centered around Randle?
We had Cousins locked and loaded for us. We probably would have pulled the trigger if we didn't have an albatross contract at the center position already.
You guys I really don't think this was an LA decision. I think we offered them a good deal, but Vivek is an idiot. Case in point: Vivek values Buddy this highly. I read tweets last night that said Vivek views Buddy as a Top 5 pick and feels like he just got a Top 5 pick and a Top 10 pick for Cousins. It's not that we or anyone else didn't offer better packages, it's that Vivek doesn't know basketball and has awful evaluating skills.
Mitch was correct not including Ingram, fearing Cousins will bolt considering we can't add talent after the 12:01 fiasco. Kupchak has outlived his usefulness and we are where we are because of him and Jim. We need a change.
Oh don't worry. I tracked down the entire thread for you in case you didn't remember what happened. There you go. All in one spot for you. So as you can see you made a terrible claim that Doc's trade wouldn't even net Gay. I (correctly) disputed that claim and you tried to change your argument to Cousins instead of Gay.
Can't wait until there are much better things to discuss than crappy trades for psycho players and teammates with snapped achilles. Oh how far the mighty have fallen.
Thank god. I'm doing good. No Melo, Love and now Cousins. Didn't and still do not want. Not even for peanuts.
Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make. Rarely said a team at the bottom of the standings lol.
No way to really know that actually, but if he couldn't get more elsewhere.....is another contender going after him to sign him away?
I'm still more angry about the Mozgov/Deng contracts that Mitch gave out over the summer, probably going to be stuck with them.
Imagine If the Lakers did trade for Cousins. He can get a 5 year 180 million extension this summer. Which the Lakers probably would consider giving to avoid a Howard situation where he could bolt as a free agent. Lakers would have the most expensive C duo In NBA history with Cousins and Mozgov.
Probably. Players want to win rings. After losing so much in his career, I think Cousins would take less money to play for a contender. You're correct that there is no way in knowing he'll actually bolt, but that's not a risk i'm personally willing to take given our track record with FAs recently. Granted we're a little bit better now in that we don't sell players on our history or the weather in LA as much anymore, but we have yet to field a decent team.
and I still dont think it would. why eat Moz contract for Nance/JC? Nance is a good glue guy, nothing special and JC well you guys wine and cry about him almost every gm now about him regresssing, no d and just a pure chucker now. IF Sac still had Cousins, theres no way they do that trade anyway, they already have a 7ft making half of what Moz does who does exactly the same thing
Yeah you're wrong, but at least you're on topic. Giving up an asset for nothing is something you should never do. Ask Mitch about trading Pau Gasol or even Dwight Howard for that matter. Or Bazemore and Ed Davis even. Letting go of players for no return is always the wrong move. At least when you get rid of Gay you get two good assets worth having on your rebuilding team.
I honestly think we dodged a bullet with Cousins. Besides I like our frontcourt rotation of Randle/Nance and Zubac/Black.
McLemore shows some promise as a shooter, but he's on the last year of his deal. Collison would be a good add, but he's in the last year of his deal. Afflalo went downhill quickly, and he has I think one more year at $12.5M on the contract. We could offer Calderon (expiring) and Nick (probably expiring) for Afflalo to get him under control for a season.
