President Trump

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Philosophy -(FORUM CLOSED)-' started by TIME, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. Azndude2190

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    Where did I say your sexist if you didn't support Hillary Clinton? Anyone? Please do go dig it up.

    I supported Bernie through the primary and half heartedly defended her during the general. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement of her candidacy.

    And Warren wasn't stating an opinion, she was literally trying to read a letter. Mitch McConnell thought it impugned the honor of Jeff Sessions, hence safe spaces. Mind you that her male colleagues where allowed to read it. So you might want to read up on the context before you go full throttle and accuse me of anything.
     
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    If I want to hush Warren up, solely due to her gender, it stands to reason that I would be the kind of person who discredit Hillary, solely due to her gender. It's not that far of a stretch.

    Your reception towards Hillary has no relevance nor does whether Warren was stating an opinion or reading a letter. I don't like her, and it was nice to have someone, legally mind you, put her in her place.

    Lastly, you weren't calling for Sessions or McConnell to engage in "safe space mode!" That was directed to me. And possibly to John. I'm sure how much more context there can be with a two sentence, emotional ad hominem.
     
  3. Azndude2190

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    Huh?

    Your the one who brought up Hillary Clinton and lied about me calling others sexist if they don't vote for her. I'm still waiting on you to go find the posts.

    And her reading a letter does have relevance. That was the sole reason for why she was shut down from the Senate floor.

    Oh man the irony of "safe spaces" and you accusing me of attacking you. Good lord.
     
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    Conversation is right on the edge of getting personal. Please continue to bring strong, well reasoned points without crossing that line. This applies to all of us.
     
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    I hate Congress. My party is saying it's too much. What exactly is too hard when they control House, Senate, WH, and SCOTUS?


    President Trump and GOP leaders on Capitol Hill have promised voters that 2017 will bring the repeal and replacement of ObamaCare, a long-awaited overhaul of the tax code and funding for a “great wall” along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Now, some in the party are wondering whether Republicans have bitten off more than they can chew.

    Conservative naysayers inside and outside the Capitol argue that it’s not just about the GOP-controlled Congress’s slow start in carrying out Trump’s agenda.

    There’s serious concern that Trump and GOP leadership have simply identified too many big-ticket, politically thorny items to tackle in year one. They also see tough times ahead in prioritizing what to do.

    “It’s not just the fact that there are a lot of items but the enormity of those items,” said GOP Rep. Daniel Webster, who learned how to manage a legislative calendar while serving as Speaker of the Florida state House.

    Another Republican lawmaker was even more blunt: “There’s no way we can do all these issues.”

    The GOP’s 2017 calendar is already riddled with must-pass deadlines: Congress needs to fund the government before money runs out on April 28; raise the debt ceiling by this summer; and pass reauthorization of the Federal Aviation Administration by September, among other statutory deadlines.

    Republicans also have begun dismantling a plethora of Obama-era regulations focused on the environment and other issues.

    On top of that, Republicans hope to pass all 12 fiscal year 2018 appropriation bills before Oct. 1 — something that hasn’t been done in two decades.

    Trump has talked of a $1 trillion infrastructure package — though conservatives on Capitol Hill have had heartburn over that proposal for some time.

    “Think about it. We have two appropriations [processes] to do before Sept. 30, plus tax reform, the wall, infrastructure,” the GOP lawmaker said. “Any two would be Herculean."

    You can read the rest of the article here: http://www.thehill.com/homenews/house/318808-gop-frets-over-too-high-expectations
     
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    Considering Mexico wouldn't be paying for The Wall (just yet according to Mr. Orange), that tax burden will first fall on us. So the money will have to come out of the tax budget.

    Additionally, they're trying to repeal/reform Obamacare to a working Conservative model, which will have to come out of the tax budget.

    Then he want's to Tax Reform to...reduce taxes on American's I'm assuming? Where is the money to pay for these projects going to come from then? Cutting programs like Planned Parenthood isn't enough, no matter how unethical I believe that is.

    That's the question the House/Senate/SCOTUS are having for their own candidate. He's trying to take too many cookies out of the cookie jar and his hand is stuck because he's taking too many.
     
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    There's spots where the money can come from, but not all of it and certainly this is too much to try to do at the start of the term.

    Part of me loves the idea of these fat, lazy bureaucrats being forced to actually make things happen for once, but another part of me realizes when things are being pushed too far. This farce of a wall needs to be tabled for more important matters.
     
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    Flynn has been fired, or stepped down, depending on who you believe.
     
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    Is Trump afraid of exposing his business ties to Russia?
     
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    Too early for me say anything without harder evidence. What I cam say for sure is that KellyAnne needs to go.
     
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    Interview today was strange, even by her standards.

    I think she's out of her element. She's better at getting people into office than repping them while in office.
     
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    Well, I'll say Flynn didn't just decide to call up the Russian Ambassador on his own.

    Someone told him to do it. Either Trump, Bannon, or Pence probably.
     
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    Conway is doing her job. She's deflecting every question she gets and either tries to paint Trump in a positive way, or segway into something negative about the DNC.

    She's still an idiot and I don't know why the media keeps calling her for interviews, unless that's all the White House has to offer between her and Spicer. Like choosing between Dumb and Dumber.
     
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    Here's the latest "Trump's staff working with the Russians" news of the day. This is a separate one from Flynn.

    I was listening to the interview of a former CIA agent who was saying, every big world power is constantly trying to influence each others elections. They all constantly try to hack and intercept eachother's information. What's disturbing is that Trump's people have been so stupidly brazen with talking directly to Russia and talking to them a lot.

    They're trying to run the government like an authoritarian business where what they say goes, but eventually he's going to push that too far and impeachment proceedings WILL start.

     
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    This man is seriously troubled.

    If something comes out against him such as the Russian leaks, it's "Fake News." And the scary part is, most of his supporters would believe him. But he was so quick to call out Hillary. Imagine if all she did was claim everything Donald was saying was "Fake News", sounds great right?

    And when he makes claims without any evidence such as the "Voter Fraud", with his minions Spicer and Conway still trying to defend those claims, he claims it's reputable?
     
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    I think you're right. Approval rating today is 55%.
     
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    I'm genuinely scared of the stuff Trump is doing on a daily basis. He's crazy, he gets his info/news from tv and trash websites, and he's trying to control the media, what we see of him, and how we see it. He's getting a little too.. Hitlery for my taste.
     
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    The exaggeration factor of people reacting to Trump is not really any more helpful than his extreme declarations. The Hitler comparison is probably the most popular. I'm curious. What exactly about Trump is "Hitlery"? I ask this as someone who is a history buff and has read a bit of Hitler's career.
     
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