Timofey Mozgov Discussion: Shut Down For Season (66)

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  1. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

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    Trade him or stretch him this offseason.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Feb 8, 2017
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  2. therealdeal

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    I'd focus on Deng first. ;)

    But I'd like for both of them to be off the team somehow starting next year. It's telling that Magic is meeting with Jim and Mitch to try to figure out their reasoning on getting those two.
     
    therealdeal, Feb 8, 2017
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    How long are the stretches now?
     
    LTLakerFan, Feb 8, 2017
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  4. LaVarBallsDad

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    Any one of them, but they both have to be dealt with; if I were Walton, I'd try Deng as a backup 4 as the rest of the season.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Feb 8, 2017
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  5. LaVarBallsDad

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    As long as Suzy wants them to be...:Fishwink:
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Feb 8, 2017
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    I would too, but we've already got a good backup 4 in Larry Nance Jr. The only time I'd play Deng is against a small-ball lineup where Deng can "stretch the floor" but even then I might prefer Larry Nance Jr. because of what he can do defensively.
     
    therealdeal, Feb 8, 2017
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    Hmmmm. If Deng is serviceable there; meaning stretch the 4, play decent defense, what if an offer came to you for a impact wing that included say Clarkson and Nance? Would you do it?
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Feb 8, 2017
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    How impactful? Larry's energy changes so much of what we do. He's good for pushing Julius as a professional and he's great for injecting energy into the second unit... I'm very attached to Larry.

    If we're looking for a defensive minded wing, we could get one this summer with Sefolosha, Iguodala, and Tony Allen are available. There's also shooters like Korver or Redick available.

    Obviously my dream is Hayward but even I'm not that optimistic.
     
    therealdeal, Feb 8, 2017
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  9. LaVarBallsDad

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    I don't know what wing. LOL. I'd have to look at rosters. I'm looking for a 2-way wing. In the mold of Wesley Matthews, Bradley Beal, etc.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Feb 8, 2017
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    Iguodala stays up North. Allen? He's getting up in years and I see him resigning with Memphis. This leaves Sefolosha who would be the best choice and I've always like him.
     
    gcclaker, Feb 8, 2017
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    He's also getting up there.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Feb 8, 2017
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    Iguodala is a pipe dream IMO, Allen while still an elite defender is a liability on offense. Sefolosha would be a great wing defender on this team who can contribute some on offense. The player we wished Anthony Brown would have been and never was...
     
    gcclaker, Feb 8, 2017
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    I like him, but he'll be 33 next year.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Feb 8, 2017
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    I think that to pretend Moz's salary is some league worst deal is disingenuous, ignorant, or a cry for help at this point. He's using a pittance of the cap.
     
    trodgers, Feb 8, 2017
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    There's also trade targets like Alec Burks, Wes Matthews that you mentioned, Wilson Chandler, Stanley Johnson, and Kelly Oubre,
     
    therealdeal, Feb 8, 2017
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    I'm not a fan of Mozgov by any means, but this just isn't fair to say.

    You don't believe that a player can put in a lot of effort and work on his game to only turn out to be a good/decent player in this league?

    Because what you're saying is that he's playing bad because his work ethic and seriousness for the game is terrible. Could it be that he actually does work on his game and cares but just isn't going to get any better because I believe that.
     
    Battle Tested20, Feb 8, 2017
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    Yeah, my good buddy is 6-3 and pretty athletic so if he put in the effort and seriousness he could easily become Steve Nash.
     
    tada, Feb 8, 2017
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    He is getting paid average money for a player in his position the new CBA as real said.

    Moz being terrible is your opinion, not fact. A fact would be that a lot of us disagree with your conclusion that he's a terrible player.
     
    Barnstable, Feb 8, 2017
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  19. LTLakerFan

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    Careful Khmrp ..... it's a trap. Facts are facts and you can't just keep coming with the same s*** over and over and over and over when you couldn't come up with your own pick instead that you could have sold to Walton and Shaw and even begged off on knowing who the options were on the market when I asked last time. "How could you know since they signed him at 12:01" and didn't know who else they did or didn't consider. OX at least has a name in keeping Slow Roy instead for cheap and maybe the season results not much different. But even OX and his burly self would have had no chance in convincing Luke and Brian at the time.
     
    LTLakerFan, Feb 8, 2017
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    If a trade can be arranged, Stanley Johnson...Wilson Chandler...Wes Matthews...Alec Burks...Kelly Oubre, in that order.
     
    gcclaker, Feb 8, 2017
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