President Trump

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Philosophy -(FORUM CLOSED)-' started by TIME, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. Barnstable

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    I will be happy to, but those stats are only a part of the picture. This is more like where I imagine we're headed:

    REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS IN FIVE STATES PROPOSE BILLS TO CRIMINALIZE PEACEFUL PROTEST, oh, and cops in Indiana will legally be able to shoot peaceful protesters too if the bill passes.

    Totalitarian Oligarchy
     
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    I'm not for those and I agree that he'll screw up a lot of things. I think he'll do great with economy and military and little else.
     
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    I just think you're letting the hype of this anti-trump thing going on get to you is all...
     
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    First, they have to get passed, which I doubt... if it's a peaceful rally no one is going to get shot calm yourself man. Riots form during these peaceful protests and no one has gotten shot by police, I doubt they'd shoot a peaceful protest...

    You'd have to be a fool to believe peaceful protestors would be shot.
     
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    You have no idea how many friends of mine are freaking out. I'm not buying into the anti Trump thing. I hope he does well. It's in everyone's best interest, but I didn't like him when he was running, and I don't like him now.

    I think he's going to do a lot of harm to this country.
     
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    "An Indiana Senate bill would require public officials to immediately dispatch "all available law enforcement" to clear a traffic blockade involving at least 10 people "by any means necessary." Opponents call it the "block traffic and you die" bill."

    That's not to say they are telling cops to shoot protesters. It is however making it no longer a crime if and when a cop does.

    Also:

    "North Dakota lawmaker wants to make it legal to run over protesters

    In response to the protests over the Dakota Access Pipeline, one lawmaker, Keith Kempenich, has introduced a bill that would allow drivers to run down protesters blocking roads without any kind of penalty. His inspiration? His mother-in-law was startled by a protester in the road who he claims jumped in front of her car.

    While Kempenich claims the bill would simply protect drivers who unintentionally collide with protesters through no fault of their own, it’s not much of a stretch to see how this law could be manipulated to allow security personnel and construction workers to simply mow down protestors with impunity.

    This is just one of several bills that have recently been introduced in the state legislature attempting to discourage protests. One would make it a crime for adults to wear masks at protests, while another would require the state’s attorney general to sue the federal government for more than $22 million in order to reimburse law enforcement costs.


    Related: Major oil spill 150 miles from DAPL protest validates Standing Rock concerns

    Tara Houska, a Native American activist at Oceti Sakowin camp, told NBC News, “It’s shocking to see legislation that allows for people to literally be killed for exercising their right to protest in a public space. These [bills] are meant to criminalize the protests with no real concern for constitutional law.”


    While these proposed laws may seem outlandish, they shouldn’t surprise anyone. The state has already attempted to fine anyone bringing food and supplies to protestors up to $1,000 per incident, and police brutally attacked protesters back in November, injuring hundreds of people. It seems the state is determined to everything in its power to ignore the health and safety concerns of its own residents."



    It's not crazy Dav. They are attempting to legalize killing or inuring peaceful protesters.
     
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    Trump threatened this during his campaign because the US was footing 70% of the bill. Once he started complaining other countries started paying their part. Not sure what his issue is now.
     
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    "Donald Trump set to ‘eliminate arts funding programs’, cutting off NPR and PBS


    He is notoriously not fond of broadcast media
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    President-elect Donald Trump is believed to be planning on shutting down arts and heritage programs as part of a raft of budget-tightening measures.

    The Hill, whose source is an unnamed member of Trump’s transition team, reported that Trump will eliminate both the National Endowment For The Arts and the National Endowment For The Humanities, and privatise the Corporation For Public Broadcasting.

    The latter partially funds National Public Radio (NPR) and Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), currently receiving $445.5 million a year from the government, around half of which goes to the US’ approx. 350 public television stations.



    In response to the news, a heartfelt speech by Fred Rogers before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications from 1969 (above), in which he defends PBS, is being shared this morning"

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...ities-nea-neh-npr-cbs-president-a7536741.html
     
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    ^^^ headline: set to eliminate. First paragraph: believed to be planning....

    I'm not against that. He wants to cut 10%. $445 million a year can be better used elsewhere, IMO. I would've never guessed they got that much. Sheesh!!
     
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    "FHA mortgage premium cuts helping low-income homebuyers cancelled by President Trump

    Soon after he was sworn in as the 45th president of the United States, Donald John Trump set to work signing executive orders. And one of his first actions was to roll back a discount on the fees for a federal mortgage program that helps middle-class homebuyers.

    Last week, the outgoing Housing and Urban Development secretary, Julian Castro, said the Federal Housing Administration would cut its fees on mortgage insurance starting Jan. 27. The FHA backs mortgages for homebuyers with less-than-perfect credit scores or who put down small down payments. About 1 in 5 mortgages is backed by the FHA, according to reports. The program is particularly popular with low-income and first-time homebuyers.

    Castro said the cut, of a quarter of a percentage point, was necessary to offset rising mortgage rates. If it had gone in effect, it would have saved a homebuyer borrowing $200,000 about $500 on their yearly insurance premium.

    But on Friday, HUD, which administers the program, said the reduction was “suspended indefinitely.”

    Democratic leader Chuck Schumer denounced Trump’s move, speaking on the floor of the Senate.

    “One hour after talking about helping working people and ending the cabal in Washington that hurts people, he signs a regulation that makes it more expensive for new homeowners to buy mortgages,” Schumer said.

    Ben Carson, Trump’s nominee to lead HUD, told a Senate committee last week he would “really examine” the interest-rate cut."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-s...insurance-premium-cuts-first-time-homebuyers/
     
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    Day 2: Trump attacks on the media.

    Time Magazine reported that Trump removed a bust of Dr Martin Luther King from the Oval office. This was false and Trump (though his Press Secretary) blasted the journalist.

    The Media says the crowd was really small for the Inauguration. 2 things: It was smaller than the one for Obama (not sure which one for Obama, but the photo widely circulated). However, the side by side pictures aren't accurate, as the one for Trump was 45 minutes before the start and was a lot larger in other photos (still not the size of Obamas, but not sparce like depicted).

    My opinion: The MLK gaffe is a big deal and Trump was justified in correcting Time magazine. The crowd size, while not accurate, is not a big deal. Trump and his team need to learn what battles to fight and which ones to ignore.
     
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    Too bad nobody called Obama a racist when he removed the Churchill bust. It's hilarious, every little stinking move he makes.

    I hope Trump succeeds just to give everyone the 1 finger salute!
     
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    Trump put it back in the Oval office.
     
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    I know that, that's why I mentioned it. Obama replaced Churchill w/MLK when he took office.
     
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    Trump and his team are right on this one. It's unacceptable for any organization claiming to be a NEWS organization to straight up lie like that. This is one good thing I hope comes from President Trump. Maybe some of the fake stories can be cleaned up.

    That 45 min time difference wouldn't make a difference. People should have been there hours before, waiting.

     
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    He still hasn't put his businesses in a blind trust.
    Several of his cabinet appointees have yet to clear ethics checks.
    And he has yet to release his tax returns.

    All the while he's complaining about the portrayal of crowd sizes and how the media is being unfair to him.

    If this was Obama or Clinton, the right wing would be all over this. Like seriously, tell me if i'm being unfair in my criticism of Trump. I feel like if this was Mitt Romney, John McCain, or Bob Dole; this wouldn't be an issue.

    Low energy. Sad.
     
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    The hypocrisy goes both ways. Should he be criticized? sure. Did the media give Obama a pass 99.9% of the time? yes. I'm not sure how you can claim he's low energy on day 3, unless you criticized Obama for not accomplishing anything on day 3.
     
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    I think he was being facetious because Trump said that to someone.

    I immediately read that in Trump's voice haha
     
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    I'm just using his words against him.

    Low energy. Sad! Tremendous.
     
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