Official: Unsubstantiated Trade Suggestions, Speculation, And Rumors

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by Barnstable, Sep 15, 2014.

Page 32 of 65
  1. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,725
    Likes Received:
    77,087
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    That looks like mediocrity for years to come. I'll pass.
     
    sirronstuff, Nov 15, 2016
    #621
    The Showtime Mamba, Barnstable, Cookie and 6 others like this.
  2. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I don't mind that. How can Washington not at least listen to those offers?
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Nov 15, 2016
    #622
  3. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,594
    Likes Received:
    60,826
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    I hate that.

    :No2:
     
    LTLakerFan, Nov 15, 2016
    #623
    raviator, sirronstuff, Cookie and 6 others like this.
  4. ElginTheGreat

    ElginTheGreat - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Messages:
    10,963
    Likes Received:
    30,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline

    Yeah. No thanks.

    The rebuilding is working. We're back on the right path. I wouldn't blow it up now.

    Having watched him play many times back when I lived in DC, I'm not nearly as high on Wall as others are. I wouldn't give up that much for him.
     
    ElginTheGreat, Nov 15, 2016
    #624
    The Showtime Mamba, Barnstable, Cookie and 3 others like this.
  5. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    You're not blowing anything up; If you can at least keep 2 of your main pieces (Randle, Ingram), and centered a package around @therealdeal is saying, then you're still in fantastic position.

    Not only that, you'd have a PG who is ELITE at his position and an All-Star. You go into FA next year ahead of the curb.

    Additionally, what if you can stretch and waive Deng, and add Blake Griffin next year (don't even know if that' possible) . Admittedly, I love Wall's game every since he came out of University of Kentucky. I'd love the potential with him on this team.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Nov 15, 2016
    #625
  6. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,585
    Likes Received:
    37,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    Wall, while not the exactly a pure PG, is one of the better passing ones in the league.

    I wouldn't give up both DAR and JC though but it would probably take that to do at least get Washington interested
     
    alam1108, Nov 15, 2016
    #626
  7. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    That's crazy. Not because we're giving up to much or its not fair, but its crazy because I'm not blowing up this team for a talent like Wall who IMO has peaked or is real close to being as good as he will be in his career. Where as Russell, Clarkson, and especially Zubac.... we don't know yet.

    I would not make this trade even though it would likely be what we'd have to give up.
     
    Battle Tested20, Nov 15, 2016
    #627
    trodgers, Cookie, ZenMaster and 3 others like this.
  8. ElginTheGreat

    ElginTheGreat - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Messages:
    10,963
    Likes Received:
    30,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Russell and Clarkson is just too much in my opinion. I think the Wizards would be getting the better end of the deal in the long run.

    Wall is good but it Would just feel like a step back into us trying to grab names rather build a team.

    I think the team is actually on track to win 35 to 40 games which should already make us more attractive to free agents.

    No one on the team is untouchable but I think we can do better. Especially if we're giving up both of those guys.
     
    ElginTheGreat, Nov 15, 2016
    #628
    trodgers and Cookie like this.
  9. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I don't think it would take D'Angelo AND Clarkson FWIW.

    What if it is just a package centered around D'Angelo?

    Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Nov 15, 2016
    #629
  10. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Thanks for defending the trade.

    For the record I wasn't saying I'd do them, but it'd take a package like that to make the deal work. The Wizards aren't going to give him away, they'd need a lot to move him and we'd have to comply. If a deal were to get done, they'd look like the ones I posted.

    From our perspective, I don't want to give up D'Angelo AND Clarkson, but I don't see a scenario where D'Angelo alone is enough for Wall. If we still had our pick, then that changes the equation but we have a very spotty pick situation for the next two years. If we had our pick, we could do something like D'Angelo, pick, and Zubac and that'd be more than enough to make it work. Without the pick, the Wizards will want something more proven.

    Also for what it's worth, Wall would NOT mire us in mediocrity any more than we're potentially mired right now. Salary cap next year will be 102 million and we'd have a guaranteed contract total of around 85 million. We'd have enough to offer a large contract and if we're able to shed Deng's we'd have a ton of room to make a huge splash in FA now that we'd have a legitimate star along with good young talent like Ingram, Randle, and Nance Jr.

    Again: wouldn't make the trade today, but check back around the deadline and that attitude might change.
     
    therealdeal, Nov 15, 2016
    #630
    alam1108 likes this.
  11. ElginTheGreat

    ElginTheGreat - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Messages:
    10,963
    Likes Received:
    30,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I would be open to a package with just Russell.
     
    ElginTheGreat, Nov 15, 2016
    #631
  12. ElginTheGreat

    ElginTheGreat - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Messages:
    10,963
    Likes Received:
    30,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yeah. Ask me this again around the All Star break I suppose.

    But I agree with the difficulties in putting something together with just Russell. It's another reason I think we are better off staying pat. The risk of regretting letting any combination of our young guys go is too high for my taste.
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2016
    ElginTheGreat, Nov 15, 2016
    #632
    raviator, Cookie and gcclaker like this.
  13. ZenMaster

    ZenMaster - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    6,051
    Likes Received:
    13,440
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Wall has two surgically repaired knees and is being kept off of b2bs.

    No thank you.
     
    ZenMaster, Nov 15, 2016
    #633
  14. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,135
    Likes Received:
    13,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Dlo/deng future 1st for pg13 :)
     
    Khmrp, Nov 15, 2016
    #634
    gcclaker, KareemtheGreat33 and trodgers like this.
  15. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,784
    Likes Received:
    23,916
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    PG13 is a taller Kobe, I'll sign up for that but Indy won't especially if Thon Deng is involved
     
    KareemtheGreat33, Nov 16, 2016
    #635
  16. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,020
    Likes Received:
    20,530
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    This concerns me even if the deal is hypothetical at this point.
     
    gcclaker, Nov 16, 2016
    #636
  17. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,020
    Likes Received:
    20,530
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    With the alleged reports that George is questioning the Indy situation... Anything is possible.
     
    gcclaker, Nov 16, 2016
    #637
    alam1108 likes this.
  18. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,594
    Likes Received:
    60,826
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    ..... except Larry Bird doing the Lakers any favors.
     
    LTLakerFan, Nov 16, 2016
    #638
    gcclaker likes this.
  19. SFGOLDRUSHER

    SFGOLDRUSHER - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    2,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master Optimist.
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    Well we know who ever goes to the east is instantly better lol.

    If walls health going forward isn't looking pretty the trade is dead to me.
     
    SFGOLDRUSHER, Nov 17, 2016
    #639
  20. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,594
    Likes Received:
    60,826
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    That's OK, saw an interview with Wall recently where he said you were "dead to him".

    :Noddingyes:






    :Fishwink:
     
    LTLakerFan, Nov 17, 2016
    #640
    The Showtime Mamba and KareemtheGreat33 like this.
Page 32 of 65

Share This Page