If "Bynum Will Never Be Special" .... How About Zubac?

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The positives with Zubac are a couple of things: no character issues that we know of, willing to learn, and has a promising foundation to work on....

Tim will work on his side to side lateral agility, get him stronger, and he'll continue to develop under a competent coaching staff.

Is he special? Idk. He is a first round talent, though.

 

You should know by now. Stop being so PC around here. Do you seriously think there's a chance after all you've seen so far that he won't be special? Please list the reasons why not, aside from the only one I think where he lacks. Not fast twitch intensive nor uber athlete like D. Jordan on Clippers? But as others have mentioned he is no slug running the floor either.

I guess my point with the thread was hell yes Bynum was going to be special, and I think Zu is going to be more "special" in more ways than Drew was during his short peak before the freak injuries wrecked his career.

 

Maybe because I have to see more of him. And what do you consider 'special?' What is your definition? I reserve special for players such as: Kobe, MJ, Shaq, Magic, Lebron, Curry, etc...is Zu in or will he fall in that category? Probably not. So, while may not fall under my definition of 'special', it does not mean I don't think he can be a very good player in this league.

 

Just me and my subjective definitions but those guys are "Legendary", "Hall of Fame" worthy players. Greatest of all Times. Waaay beyond "special". Bynum was indeed "special" during his short period of time blowing up, and giving Kobe a reason to hope that season after wanting to play on Pluto, right before Drew started getting the serious knee injuries, and right before we got Pau Gasol who was Hall of Fame "special".

Think Let's Go Lakers calling Jordan Clarkson "special" from his eye tests. Do you believe your eyes? What would keep Zu from reaching at least that level of Bynum "special" in the next 2 years counting this one? How many flaws are you seeing?

 

I want to believe my eyes, but I need others for perspective and impartiality because there are others who have more of a vast understanding of the game than I do.

The only thing that would keep Zu from reaching Bynum's level (Bynum was an underrated player) is Zubac. The foundation is there; he needs to stay focused and doing what he is doing...putting the work in.

Flaws? Pick in roll coverage, I haven't seen a left hand, there is probably more, but nothing I don't think he can't improve upon...



Video of SL - Zubac

 

He's got a left hand. Pick and roll? Sure, most really big men have a problem showing way out there and getting back. I've forgotten, how good was Bynum doing that? He wasn't the most fleet of foot big man either, though he was a good athlete for his size. Anyway, my opinion is that Zu "may" be better now at 19 than Bynum was at 19 in his second year after two Big Man camps and having KAJ for his personal Big Man tutor. Hard for me not to be super excited about Zu as much as I loved what Drew was working into becoming. I still remember those crazy upward progression runs he would get on when he had his health before the first knee injury and then finally after rehab and doing another run like that until the 2nd knee injury.

 

I'm with ROFY

Your definition of special is different than mine, and maybe that's the reason you are not getting the reaction you were hoping for.

I don't consider Bynum special. Hall of Famer's are special, and that's why I think most people think it's too soon to dub a rookie as special.

If your definition of special is above average, then yes I think zubac will be special.

 

I'd call it way above average. But hall of fame gets to a level as I see it, way beyond special. Is Damian Lillard special? I'd say hell yeah, but he hasn't even been able to crack All Star yet let alone singling him out for the Hall.

 

I am going to just enjoy the process.

 

Trust the process

 

Sure so am I. I was just curious because of the notoriety of that thread putting a limit from some dude's mind on what Bynum's ceiling was (never going to to be special) laughably early in his 2nd season, and not even a good take then, how Zu stacks up in other's perceptions at 19 years of age compared to him. I thought Bynum was pretty special before getting hurt.

 

Shoulda had braces. Gotta love "Moms".

 

I don't think Zu earns a V. Bynum thread until he dunks on Shaq or an acceptable equivalent.

 

Yep that was a great moment.

 

People forget.

Bynum, health permitted, was on his way to 20/12/2.5 - which are HoF numbers, especially considering he was also becoming a terrifying defender.

Injuries and the stuff between the ears. Let's hope Zubac has none of the former and a lot of the latter.

 

I can't tell how much of this topic is tongue-in-cheek.

Sure, I guess the flashes we've seen from Zubac in summer league and limited minutes in 2 preseason games are more impressive than Bynum as a rookie ... but it's still WAAAAAY too early to say Zubac will end up being anywhere near as good as healthy Bynum was.

Like how is this even a conversation? Bynum was a 20/10 guy who was the defensive anchor of championship teams, had the ability to put up 40+ points with elite post moves, pulled down 30 rebounds in a game, got a triple double in the playoffs with 10 blocks.

Zubac is a second round pick who looked good in summer league but hasn't played a minute in a real NBA game.