Coaches Hiring

I wanted to bring up this topic because outside of PJ, we have had very little success with over coaches over the years. Is this because mgmt isnt doing a good job of screening the canidates? I mean pj was sort of a no brainet right? Ive only been a fan since the end of magic era transitioning into the jone/van exel era so were we this bad with hiring coaches back in thethe day too? I mean look at the green puke, they didnt lose much going from doc "cry me a" rivers to stevens, who sime might argue could ve a better coach than rivers, he just lacks the talent doc had. I hope Luke is our ver. Of Stevens but if he fails too i would not be surprised at all, unfortune thing for me to say but jim or whoever is making the hcoach hiring decisions has given me very little to be confident about

 

There was a lot of discussion about coaches and Luke especially prior to "Jim" hiring him. You had no opinion leaning toward him being a potential great hire due to his exposure to basketball greatness intellectually his whole life from legends of the game, his well known intellect as a player or to the job he did as head coach of the Warriors first half of the season ..... and think he might still suck just because "Jim" hired him? Not sure if serious.

 

Bro you need better reading comprehension. I never said luke sucks and this thread isnt ragging on him either. I merely noted if luke doesnt work out it wouldnt surprise me one bit. Byron out of the last 3 coaches took the longest to hire and he has undoubtedly been the worse of the last 3, i dont think del harris, Rudy or dunleavy was as hated as byron has been

 

Saying Byron was hired to lose is a big time cop out imo. No coach with any self respect would agree to coach to lose, especially not for a brand name franchise like this. He's pretty much sealed his fate as a bad coach and i higly doubt he'll ever get another hc job thanks to his last 2 yrs here

 

I know. That's what you said, it wouldn't surprise you a bit if Luke wound up sucking just because Jim hired him. That's why I said what I said. Bro.

 

After the bad cop of Byron, Luke will be the ultimate good cop, that should yield dividends. We need to make an investment in a new system and new methods. Byron's ideas were like Jurassic Park, trying to use grit trapped in amber to recreate a bygone era, but instead creating bygone errors.

But let's look to the future and let Byron'sgones be Bryon'sgones.

 

Personally I like the hire ....... in a way it reminds me of the Riley hiring in the aspect that the reigns are being handed off to a first time coach. It's nice that Luke is a part of the Lakers family already but with a sense of the new rather than a retread of glories past.

It will be important now to support him and understand that Rome is not built in a day, IMO the rebuild is now in year one.... I get that it's been a bit since the Lakers have even made the playoffs but quite honestly the last 3 years they have been caught living in the past while trying to transition into the future.

I agree with John 3:16 that the last few hires have been atrocious, some of this I blame on Jim who was trying to reshape the Lakers into Showtime ala the MDA hire ...... but the vision was never really right...IMO Jerry was dead wrong about the comparisons of this Suns years lead by MDFA and Nash to Showtime and Jim was trying to make that vision happen. I can't explain the the other 2 hires....Brown and Scott where to me a lost man grasping at straws while trying to hold on to the one aging asset we had..... I love Kobe but this was the wrong move on Jim's part, one of many I've criticized over the years, especially on Clublakers.

I know see a bright future ahead of us...... but until Jim steps down or proves himself I'll be sleeping with one eye open hoping he doesn't somehow mess something up. I don't trust he has a firm grasp of the game but hopefully he proves me wrong in the long run

 

This thread while true of the past 5 years or so just seems a bit untimely and Debbie Downer-ish considering Luke has not had a chance to prove himself. The FO has also not exactly been throwing a lot of healthy talent to those coaches either. We did not have rebuild coaches. We now have a rebuild coach. The coaches before Luke and post-PJ all required immense talent in order to produce decent coaching stats during their careers, they weren't the guys to grow with a youthful or rebuilding team. It's been a frustrating time but it looks like we have matched the right puzzle pieces so, chin up.

 

Don't forget Del Harris. He actually got us back into the playoffs but I seem to remember he couldn't get along with the likes of Van Exel which led to FO trading him, Jones, and Campbell for Rice and...JR freakin Reid. Still highly pissed at that trade but oh well, at least it allowed Kobe to become the player he was meant to be. Then they still ended up firing him which led to Kurt then....

 

Wasnt meant to be debbie downer but after reading the nance thread and seeing how much of a nightmare it was for the players and us with byron, im just in aww how much time mgmt put into hiring process with byron and yet he became the worse of the 3 hires the last 5yrs. Youd think after brown/mda they'd have learned enough to avoid such disastrous hiring

 

Jim Buss wanted Mike Brown; he made the hire without consulting Kobe. D'Antoni was the wrong fit for the team we had; I think Luke was the perfect hire and checks all the boxes for the present roster and the future going forward. You're right, though; we've had some very bad coaches going back through the years.

 

Anytime you hire a coach and they get fired 2-3 years in is a complete disaster. One of the biggest reasons the front office is looked liked such a mess is not the jim- jeanie fighting but the fact we make such poor coaching choices.
Why would any free agent want to go to a team where they have a new coach every few years and have no idea what style or identity the team will have.

 

How do you measure success in a coach? As the Lakers our standards have always been championship or bust. And we've almost always had the personnel to achieve it. This is basically why Brown and MDA were complete failures because they had pretty much the same personnel that had won the previous years before but the team went completely nowhere. Pfund I give a pass because I mean c'mon, our best players were what Nick and Sadale Threatt? Harris had Shaq and Kobe but couldn't get by Utah. Scott didn't have anybody either, but the fact that he couldn't coach a competitive team at all and players and fans alike hated him with a passion makes him probably the second worse hire after D'Antoni. Right now Luke may be the most sound decision basketwise as far as our personnel is concerned since Phil was hired. Of course I'm saying this when he hasn't yet coached these guys a single game, but if summer league was any indication we just very well may be back on the right track.

 

Coaches in the NBA are the worst in the 4 major sports. Their are a hand full of good coaches and a couple of great ones. And the rest are a**. Just the way it is.