Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

Amazing.
Terrifying.

 

I'm a Christian. For most of my life I saw the whole End Times stuff as sort of "a long way off" or "I'll be long dead." I also didn't see how any of it would be possible with the way the world was in the 80's and 90's...even after 9/11. But the way things are going the last 10 years, I am actually starting to be able to connect the dots. It actually seems like it's not as far fetched as it was. It is really starting to feel like this whole thing is being held together by bubble gum and fishing line, and if the right people decided to do something, they could take the whole thing down. Not like 2008, but just obliterating the whole thing leaving the world in unprecedented disarray. It's terrifying because the more technologically advanced and knowledgeable we get (as an overall species), the closer we get to falling apart. And I'm not talking the world getting nuked or something like that. That threat has been around for decades. I'm talking about the entire infrastructure and backbone of society getting destroyed.

 

I think I'm starting to buy the conspiracy theory of Trump running just to get Hillary the win. He's doing way too many crazy things, freaking throwing babies out of his rallies lol. WTF?

And I just saw a headline saying Pence is now going to endorse Ryan? What the hell is happening?

 

I agree. I've said it a few times in this thread -- what would he do differently? Nothing!

So, the Dem Party rigged things to get Hillary elected. Now the Republican nominee? I'm beyond sick of this nonsense.

In reference to the Pence endorsement of Ryan: he said, "Mr Trump strongly suggested I endorse him... and I'm happy to do it." I just don't get it.

Trump once jokingly said (I hope he was joking) that he could shoot someone on a corner in Times Sq and his people would still vote for him. I'm beginning to think that's true of Hillary. No matter what she does, it's ignored. And she has the audacity to claim she's held to a higher standard? Huh?

I give up! We're screwed and it's all by design.

 

Sigh....

 

She's untouchable because she scratches the media's back. Time Warner is one of her biggest contributors.

 

I wonder what Mitt Romney is thinking right now? I don't think he would have won the nomination over Trump since America collectively lost their minds and decided to make a "statement" in the most ill conceived way, but if he were the Republican nominee right now, he'd likely be clobbering Clinton. She is the second most unlikable politician I have ever seen...and the Republican's trotted out the most unlikeable one in the same year.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/22/politics/gary-johnson-bill-weld-town-hall/

 

Probably not. They'd attribute the loss to something else.

 

I think the real issue is that Johnson lacks presence. He's got great fiscal ideas and he has good stances on a lot of the social issues, but he lacks oomph as a speaker. He doesn't have the strong personality Americans look for in a leader. I think that more than anything will be the reason he doesn't get enough attention even though at this stage he absolutely still has my vote.

Hopefully soon Republican and Democrat voters realize that the Libertarian party is almost assuredly the party they identify most with, but it probably won't be soon enough. The real problem is that somehow fiscal responsibility and economic decision making has become... undervalued? Somehow there's a large, large portion of the country that either doesn't understand economics or (and possibly both) doesn't WANT to understand economics. Those people focus solely on social issues which the Republican party has become completely antiquated with by doubling down on strong ties to the Christian community. I have no problem with Christian values, but when they're so intricately tied to your political beliefs you're going to lose elections and they have. The Libertarian party comes off as too middling and it's because they ARE! They're the marriage of modern social concepts and fiscal intelligence. The only two positives remaining from either of the major parties. Of course there's some things I don't agree with (foreign policy mostly), but the vast majority I DO agree with and dammit I wish Johnson was a more convincing leader so he could turn more heads.

 

I'd put his chances of winning at about 10 percent. Something major will have to happen for people to vote him into office. Major attack on US soil, complete meltdown of the stock exchange, the media reporting things accurately and / or fair, etc.

 

At this point, I think it would have to be a combination of a terrorist attack here by refugees that were found to be let in under this "open borders" bull crap ALONG WITH Wikileaks dropping a bombshell a week before the election. I think it will take BOTH of those things to stop her. Trump is just that bad right now.

 

I'm always shocked at how few people I talk to realize how bad it is and how it's getting worse literally by the second.

You're right 20% is probably high. So many people focused on the Bachelorette and the Kardashians instead of nearly 20 trillion dollars and their kids' futures.

 

The debt is out of sight, out of mind. Similar to taxes. Just comes out of people's paycheck. Get paid in cash and hand back that 15, 20, 30 percent and you'll see people wake up.

If Hillary is president for 8 years, I predict the debt will be somewhere between 30 and 35 trillion. Assuming everything doesn't collapse first.