To Serve And Protect

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  1. Barnstable

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    That was very tough to watch, and the cops did everything right with that one
     
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    That's good to hear, I have that much more respect for you than I already did. If you ever felt I was insulting you in some way, I apologize. I'm not entirely sure how the CHP does there job, they deal with less calls for service and more on the traffic side, BUT, I do truly believe once you pass the test, pass the academy, I believe a lot of your views will change. (this is my belief, not fact).

    You will see what its like to just being doing your job, and be called a racist, (or if youre black) to be called an uncle tom. You're going to see what its like to deal with unreasonable people, but know you have to remain professional to keep your job. You're going to endure biting your tongue for lots of encounters. You'll experience on what was supposed to be a simple traffic stop, contact, or just trying to get a simple statement from a suspect regarding a misdemeanor crime, and it turn into a nightmare because they refused to cooperate.

    You're going to have to determine, on the fly, what type of use of force you will be using against a certain subject. You will have to determine what type of use of force you're going to use on petty crimes such as petty theft, or vandalism on suspects that are un-cooperative with you, but the victim is demanding for action to be taken. You will have your encounters twisted with video footage that "captured" the incident.

    And you'll realize we don't get paid enough for this job lol. We basically have to know what a Lawyer knows, but actually apply it in the field and make split decisions on what we can or can't do. But it is a very fulfilling job, you feel great when you have great positive encounters with the public, and it feels great to put bad guys away.
     
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    It's not the CHP, the C.H.I.P is the physical test you have to take and pass along with a separate written test in order to apply to police departments in Connecticut.

    I expect the job to be hard as s*** lol. With as much as I criticize officers on here, it's because I really do hold the badge to a higher regard and standard. I know it's not easy, but I'm getting to the stage of my life where I want to do something to help and make an impact in people's lives.
     
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    My mistake, thats great man. My advice though, is to try and not allow this job to make you jaded. That's the one thing this job sadly does to most people. I think it's made me more of an emotionally tough person, I don't fear awkward or uncomfortable conversations, but I've been able to retain my usual personality.

    I commend you my good sir, and if you ever have questions or need advice, hit me up, I'd be glad to help.
     
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    Thanks man. I didn't know how you'd take it, but I'm glad you're supportive. I've got two good friends that are cops. One is an instructor, and is certified to administer tests, and the other just graduated the academy and hasn't been on the force long.

    Between the two of them, I've got some really good support for answering questions, but I appreciate the offer.
     
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    The first one is the one I posted earlier, but good lord the s*** you have to go through as a cop

     
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    "Can you prove I'm driving?" :D :D :D :D
     
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    We deal with that on a daily basis. lol. But it's always funny to go back and laugh at it.
     
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    Amen, the reality is Law Enforcement in general has to deal with the worse elements of society over and over and over and over again. You get jaded, you develop the ability to laugh at nightmarish situations(cause its that or cry), and you have to have patience. Like I tell my wife who is a teacher. Imagine the worst kid you ever had in class. Now imagine that there is a hole building full of them that have raped, murdered, molested, are hooked on drugs, burgled, abused, been sexually trafficked, beaten, molested, been raped, been neglected, and you have where I work. My heart and prayers always go out to other law enforcement/human services professionals because our collective reality is very different from everyone elses. to quote my old boss "We live in the ish"...
     
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    That first one is my favorite. Yeah you live in our country with all the protections but none of the laws. :D

    Sure.
     
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    Can't tell you how many times I've looked at a client (as young as 4 years old) and thought to myself, "he's gonna be in prison." It's sad. It's scary. It's frustrating. It's preventable. At least I keep telling myself that. I wonder.
     
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    It like catching raindrops in a thimble...

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    I'll say this though, the system is broken. I see the same criminals doing the same things. I lock up the same dudes for the same, or sometimes different offenses. I'm finding felons carrying guns. I literally arrested a dude that shot three people (they all lived), and when I looked him up in the system, he was CONVICTED for an attempt murder and got only 4 years in prison.... Than he tried it again and failed again.... I honestly don't know how to fix it, but something needs to be done... It's broken, especially in my county.
     
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    See @John3:16 post above about the 4 year olds. More resources spent there is the solution.
     
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    Well, the US has more people in jail than any other county, and it still isn't working, so arresting them isn't the long term solution. It has to be something changing the education levels and opportunities for people born in poverty so the generations to come have an opportunity to break the cycle.
     
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    What's the answer? Major overhaul of our education system, reformed prison system that emphasizes drug / alcohol and mental health counseling and job training, people learning to have empathy for their fellow man, be willing to talk AND LISTEN, destruction of the current Democratic and Republican parties, term limits on Congress, a flat tax, welfare reform that provides a path out, a military that isn't asked to serve as the World Police, and mandatory body cameras for all police departments.
     
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    I completely agree. Show these upcoming generations of kids that there are things out there for them. I run into this alot and it makes me sad. I'll come into contact with kids, even teens are "bad eggs". They're doing something really dumb, they committed a crime, etc...

    I would always talk to them, ask them what their plans are, what they want to do, what interests them, and they usually tell me to f-off or they don't know. And thats whats wrong in these poverty stricken neighborhoods. You gotta let these kids know there is something out there for them, even if they have parents are complete sh__heads, give em some kind of hope. I was thinking about doing some kinda outreach program, but unfortunately I just passed my probation, so i'll probably have to wait a year. But I feel like I can connect with these youngsters on a personal level,
     
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    Getting rid of victimless crime would help too.

    People rarely become better off after leaving prison. If they go there, it should be only for the most serious offenses.
     
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    Because most of the time, they don't know. The military provided me with a step-by-step path to a career. When I got out I had it figured out, for the most part. But back when I was in high school, I had literally no idea how to even apply for college. It stressed me out. I was afraid to ask. My school counselor was busy with disciplining kids and I'd bet less than 10% went on to college. Kids need to know about applications, scholarships, grants, loans, aptitude tests, visit various campuses, talk to head of various departments, look at job growth over the next 10 years, etc.

    The teens I work with -- I ask them exactly what you ask. I get the "I wanna be a basketball player" or "an actor" or "a pilot." My follow-up question is "what are you doing to accomplish that?" I get the deer in the headlights look. They're usually not doing anything to accomplish their goals. "Oh, you wanna be an actor? So are you enrolled in drama classes? Because that's a great first step. Make sure you like it. Can you sign up for it now? Maybe transfer out of that computer class you hate?" This is what school counselors and parents should be doing. But as I'm sure you know, it's not happening.
     
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