The Official Byron Scott Coach Thread 2014-2015

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  1. TIME

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    6 minutes left in a close game where our D is almost non-existent. Ed Davis gets a big block to save a basket. Coach immediately takes him out for the rest of the game. Brilliant.
     
    TIME, Nov 28, 2014
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    That blew my mind. 5 minutes left +8. 3 minutes left +0. Defense gone...
     
    trodgers, Nov 28, 2014
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    These are dark days...
     
    fabulus, Nov 29, 2014
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    That was a terrible move. The lack of minutes for Davis is mind-blowing. Dude should be starting games and closing games. He's our best rim protector since Bynum.
     
    lakerjones, Nov 29, 2014
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    Please tell me that Byron is secretly tanking cause I don't how you can take Davis out when we need to be playing defense.
     
    alam1108, Nov 29, 2014
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    I don't know man, Byron looks clueless to me...
     
    Kenzo, Nov 29, 2014
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    He had three fouls in six minutes, so I can understand not playing a bunch of minutes overall, but I don't see why he came out - and I don't understand why he wasn't inserted when we needed defense down the stretch. I think he came in for a rebound on a FT.

    In per 36 minute stats, Davis is:
    Top in rebounds
    Top in blocked shots
    Top in block + steals
    Second in offensive rebounds (by .1 - to the league leading Hill)

    He's shooting 80 points higher than anyone else on our team. He's the perfect complement piece to our guard play.

    He also has a positive ORtg - DRtg (124-112). His ORtg is second best on the team, behind Kelly (in limited minutes) and his DRtg is best on the team.

    There's really a case to be made that he's our best player this season.
     
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    Unfortunately, we're going to have to go through this for the foreseeable future.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Nov 29, 2014
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    He's done this before with Lin on at least two separate occasions where Lin had got it going; during the Memphis and Denver game.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Nov 29, 2014
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    I liked the play that Byron drew up at the end of the game, except for the fact the wrong person took the shot. Swaggy P deserved that last shot. 13 points in the 4th quarter, he was hot and the way the game ended, that was a shot Young makes all the time.

    2.8 seconds left, Swaggy takes two rhythm dribbles and cans that shot.

    Kobe is clutch as hell, but he's shooting 28% on 3's and has been spent at the end of games. If you want Kobe shooting the last shot, get him something going towards the hoop so he can get to the mid-range, not going away when he doesn't have that burst to get to his spot.
     
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    I don't know man, Kobe was wide open. It's a shot Kobe needs to hit and he knows it. I don't disagree Young could have been the one to make that shot too, but despite getting to the rim a few times, Nick has had some real struggles from the field lately too. Kobe had just hit the leaner to tie the game...

    Tough break.
     
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    Sure he was wide open, but he's still shooting 28% from 3. If you want Kobe to take the shot, get him a higher percentage shot. He's shooting 47% from 16 feet-3pt line. Get him a shot in the zone of his highest percentage.
     
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    I'm not sure Byron could draw up a play out of bounds where Kobe is wide open somewhere other than 26 feet away from the rim though...

    But really, I hear you. I just think even in those circumstances Kobe still needs to hit the shot. I blame the miss just as much as the play call.
     
    therealdeal, Nov 29, 2014
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    I'm not sure Byron should be a head coach if he can't draw up a play that is incapable of getting a shot inside the 3 point line. Kobe shooting a fadeaway over a defender in the mid-range is still a higher percentage than him shooting 3's.
     
    Doc Brown, Nov 29, 2014
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    I don't understand why Kobe's minutes can't be broken up a little differently to save his legs. It's so sad to see Kobe clank a shot short from 10 ft after a beautiful shake-n-bake fadeaway on Wiggins, and then short missed fts and of course the missed gamewinner short.

    Why not this:
    Play first 6 minutes
    SG-Ellington/SF Young minutes 6-10
    Bring back Kobe and keep Young at SF the last 2 minutes.

    That's 8 minutes/quarter x 4 = 32 minutes. Is 6 minutes too brief to get into a rhythm?
     
    Punk-101, Nov 29, 2014
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    Don't forget he could play more minutes because he's sitting out practices.


    Also seriously, there could've been a better play drawn to get a mid range shot instead of a long falling away 3 pt shot.
     
    alam1108, Nov 29, 2014
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    I think the concern is the constant start and stop then.
    I do think the 10/6/10/6 method is the way to go. It gives these long breaks before he comes in to try to close out a half strong.
     
    trodgers, Nov 29, 2014
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    Perhaps Byron was not as good of a coach as advertised. He had JKidd and decent squad in NJ. He had CP3 in NO. He has zero with this team and I wonder if he has already lost their respect for his decisions with minutes. Coach Scott wants to blame players for lack of focus and effort (too much turkey and/or hangover from MEM game). Maybe that was it. I guess we will know if they actually play tough D in the next game. I think it was a combination of both mental lapses and BScott tinkering too much. Kobe does not have the legs to shoot 3's. He was short on his prior last second show and long on this one.
     
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    Byron now knows why D'antoni resigned after demanding a two year extension to coach this #$#@. There are no adjustments, substitutions, or any amount of screaming he can do that will work in a positive way. Byron will look like the worst coach in Laker history by the season and everyone will be calling for his head. I'd like to see D'antoni do color on one of their nationally broadcast games to critique his lack of coaching defense like Byron did to him last season.
     
    Ryanwestlombardi, Nov 29, 2014
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    Would be fun to see. Rudy T resigned (though he had legit health reasons) back in 2005 or so.
     
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