Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

He will

 

Danny Ferry? But he is a racist bleep and now Deng is here so forget him!

 

Hate to harp on it, but I would've honestly rather had Cole Aldrich for 3 years/$22 million than Mozgov on his contract...

No indication that Aldrich can play starter's minutes, but 5.5 points, 5 rebounds, and a block on 60% shooting in 13 minutes a game looks good on paper...

 

Sad but true. But also why i see us getting Russell when he walks next year. Horford would not sign with KD in OKC because Russell would not make any promises (reportedly). Writing is on the wall. If Durant does not sign with C Bags he does a 1 year deal in OKC and we are having this convo next year.

 

The key word - "potential." Westbrook is a top 4 player in this league, still ascending, and perhaps right now its biggest game-changer. So I guess we just disagree. My only concern with Westbrook is the ISO reliance. Is he so much like Kobe was 12 years ago that no-body will want to play with him? Can he fit Luke's style? The triple-doubles he gets often suggest that his game is adaptable to anything. His 3-pt shooting really being his only issue. And I love his competitive spirit. Perhaps he and someone like PG would be a better fit together and easier to build around than him and KD. Who knows. I just prefer to build around him than hope for DAR and Ingram to BOTH be all stars.

 

Ingram is not going anywhere - neither is d'angelo. You will thank me in 2022

 

I've defended Mitch and Jim, but at some point they have to face the music. I love how they've drafted that's great and all, but realistically this is three straight offseasons without getting a high impact free agent. That's not say Deng and Mozgov don't help, but they definitely don't make us a playoff team.

I don't really think we can harp on the failed Chris Paul trade or the Dwight/Nash trades that didn't workout. It's been five years since the Paul deal was nixed. That's more then enough time. The Dwight/Nash trades looked great at the time, but as a GM and owner you're judged on how they work out. We'll never know how good they could've been if Nash and Pau stayed healthy, if we hired Phil, if Kobe didn't tear his Achilles, but the fact is we can't just play the what if game. It didn't work out and that's the bottom line. They nearly mortgaged our future for a guy in Nash who did next to nothing for us. They lucked out keeping these last two picks.

It's become clear in this offseason with the bad perception which quite honestly is probably deserved. Jim is a nice guy, but he just isn't a good owner. He's not the man for this job. Mitch has done a lot of great things as GM, but also plenty of bad things. Yes we've won championships with both of them, but that was so long ago. Just because we won championships with them doesn't mean we shouldn't move on from them. Two rings shouldn't give you a life time pass. Mitch hasn't been able to build a roster since this new CBA came into fruition.

We need some stability, but we also need a new voice in the front office. They can't attract free agents, they're responsible for the worst three year stretch in Lakers history, they simply haven't been good enough. They had to do something big this summer. Yes they were a 17 win team, but who's fault is that? They hired Byron, they didn't intervene when Byron decided to bench the young guys. They let Kobe's retirement tour be the priority. They've let numerous solid players do that could've helped this team. I love how they drafted and the hire of Luke, but that isn't enough to justify keeping them when you look at everything they did that set this franchise back. It's simply time.

 

So looking over the news, rumors, and stuff you all have been posting about this morning I think I am caught up. Crabbe - likely talking about partying in la not playing.

Zeller is the C bag we might pilfer.
Durant not going to C Bags- horford hates Dwight and did not want to wait any longer.
Burke was casualty of jazz having too many guards - lucky Washington bullets.

 

OK...in that case..... We're all in it together. Sorry. Scared me.

 

I like you hated mitch when he took over for west. Disagree with you now. Think this inter family squabble is real but also being used to drive lakers name into the papers. That is a bad choi e by Jeannie not Jimmy. Don't think Jimmy is 'running things' anymore. Don't think we should kick the kids out of their legacy. Magic hurt himself by his tweets. Phil by his decision to bolt for cash because he can't work with Jimmy and the sniping. I think 'we' on the outside just stay out of it and root for the best.

 

(OK I trust you...it's your site for crissakes ... ....I believe in educated "passion"..... go Crabbe!!)

 

Don't need no damn Hickson with all the uber promising 4's we have on the team and ZUBACCA!!!!

 

Looks like I will have to take a break from the forum for a little bit.

There are just so many nonsensical assumptions being made about the front office and conclusions drawn that are taken as absolute truths that it just makes my head spin.

You guys realize that Mitch is one of the best execs in the league, right? I didn't realize ones ability to land a big name is the sole criteria for the makings of a great exec. I thought building a team through strategic acquisitions (not necessarily big names but solid pieces) and the draft as well as managing the cap would be part of that equation.

See you guys in a few months. This crap just pisses me off.

 

You realize Mitch has failed to get any star free agents, let quality players walk, made bad coaching hires, and make terrible trade after terrible trade? He's had as many bad ones as good. At some point the excuses have got to stop. There needs to be some accountability. Enough is enough. You mentioned managing the cap and building a team guess what? Mitch has done neither. He can draft well that's great even if D'Lo and Brandon end up being stars they still need quality pieces around them. I don't have any confidence that Mitch can do that.

 

Hello..... I'm still here!!



I'm all about distributing first. Just cover my a** on defense. What do you expect for 3rd string best dollars ever that No one else will be bidding on?



Said with a smile because I love "abeer".

 

Whoa!!!!! I'm with Big Mamma Jamma. I blame Jim and Jeanie. I want Mitch here as long as it takes to pass the torch to Ryan West. DO NOT LET RYAN WEST GO ANYWHERE ELSE.

 

If we were able to sign Crabbe that would be great. Very good up and coming. I'm not on the getting rid of Jim/Mitch train yet. They had a couple of years they could not sign FA but not sure anyone could have with that situation. They obviously took longer than anyone would have liked to figure out what we needed for a coach. Problem is not knowing who really is doing what in the FO. I like Mitch, would take an awful lot to make me turn on him. Now that we have a coach, good young players with two possible franchise players and a couple more that could be all-stars I want to see how it plays out. I realize the last few seasons have been incredibly hard to take. However, seems like the corner has been turned and we are on our way back. Last season we were coached so badly I don't think anyone really knows what we have. We saw glimpses of players potential but then they were snuffed out. Off season has been very successful and it should be a fun upcoming season to enjoy and evaluate.