Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

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  1. sirronstuff

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    Ha ha that is great. But I mean they can't match that right? Like they almost literally can't, their payroll would be the highest of all time, someone has to go, and it's him for that price. Really, what is Milwuakee doing? That's worse than the Mozgov deal.
     
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    I'm fine with going after Bazemore, and I'd gladly pay market value for him. My point was that the FO's philosophy has fundamentally changed. Instead of 'contention' they're trying to put together a roster that's 'competitive'.

    Edit. I meant to respond to another post you mentioned about contending as opposed to the Bazemore one. My fault.
     
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    All of this, especially the second paragraph.

    Enough waiting. We have to start building some kind of true team. We must get back to some level of respectability before we can even think about signing more free agents.

    At this stage we can't even get a meeting with guys like Horford and Whiteside. For all the talk of how much Kobe hurt us with free agents, at least with him on board teams would hear us out. This should be the ultimate wake up call to everyone from the front office to the fans. We've got to settle in and really start rebuilding this team. We've put together a nice young core. Now it't time to end the one year rent a player system and really start forming a team.
     
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    I would say why......but people don't believe me.
     
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    Just noting im not all that disappointed with mozgov signing, im just not seeing what jim is promising us and this signing go together. Jim made those comments in regards to gettimg big name fa, we should hold him accountable
     
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    See that's where people keep losing me. Mozgov doesn't help get us back to respectability, people are mocking and laughing at us everywhere you turn. Unless we pull off a couple other signings that are really good, we are pretty much as bad as last year right now unless our youth have really upped their game, Ingram is more ready than we think, and Luke is that good of a coach. Plus the injury factor, last year we had almost no key injuries, not likely to happen again. All we have done so far is replace Hibbert with Mozgov, and at least then we had ok expectations because Hibbert had been an All-Star.
     
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    Jim's days are clearly numbered. Jeanie will push him out eventually. It's clear that's her goal and she's got most of the media on her side.
     
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    Oh okay, we're on the same page with that then.

    I get the philosophy of signing pieces to get more competitive as opposed to gunning for contention. I get that Mozgov, if healthy, makes us slightly more competitive. My issue is I'm not sure to what extent it makes us more competitive. I honestly think in today's NBA, we have more need of an athletic "3 and D" wing then we do a traditional center. Obviously we didn't have any center and we needed one. But I feel like we could've filled the gap with a much cheaper solution and increased our competiveness as much as Mozgov does. But a good sixth man wing that can develop with the core, run the floor with them, shoot the three, play defense as opposed to relying on guys like Nick Young, THAT could really make us more competitive.

    So it confuses me when some advocates for the Mozgov move balk at the offers Bazemore is getting although previously seeming to like Bazemore, yet justify signing Mozgov "because that's his market value" (especially when we have no idea what Mozgov's market value was).
     
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    Oh Jim is most definitely a goner. Mitch probably is too. This was far from what the Laker fans were expecting and it's far from what they promised us two years ago. This was their last ditch effort and it's failed miserably. I like Mozgov and I think he fits fine into the rebuild they're attempting, but Jim promised a 3 year rebuild. Well here's year 3 and it's over. We're not rebuilt. We're a 30-35 win team that's probably 2-3 more years away from competing.
     
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    He deserves it with signing like this and then selling us on being a contender stuff
     
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    If we had a shot at Bazemore I suppose I'd take it. The hell choice do we have? Talk about overpaid though. :D

    I mean if we don't like the Mozgov deal, that one is WAY overpaid.
     
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    I think Mosgov is an improvement from Hibbert and will be our best big man. That's not saying a lot right now I know, but I think he's a solid pick up at a position of need. Also, we're not done yet. We'll add a couple more players I imagine.

    As far as laughing and mocking, that's been happening for a while now. Its going to take time and several moves to get us back where we need to be.
     
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    It isn't that strange really .... The Lakers went through this in the 90s with Anthony Peeler, Nick Van Exel, Eddie Jones, etc.

    Some of the youth were flipped for stars such as Shaq. It's just a cycle that ever organization goes through. Frankly, the Lakers fanbase have had so many highs than lows. I'm looking forward to the kiddos growing up. I think Mitch is building something special.
     
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    This was exactly my point from a few pages ago.

    We're getting crushed for what sounds like a 3+1/64 million...

    Where is the outrage for Turner getting 4/70 million in Portland? Worse contract to a worse player, but because it's Portland that means it's okay? That means it's not worth crapping on them? Stupid double standard. I hate it.
     
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    sounds good to me...the sooner the better. I wont be to sad bout Mitch either, IMO his approach to FA pitch is as sad and pathetic as Jim and his baseball cap wearing mulet
     
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    Yeah, I guess this is a moot point because I haven't heard of us meeting with him.

    But I disagree with that. How would $20 mil for Bazemore be overpaying him if that's what the market dictates we would need to pay to get him? I think he brings more basketball value (especially when considering upside) at $20 million than Mozgov does at $16 million.
     
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    Crazy times indeed. Wow, to have won the genetic lottery....
     

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