The Official Byron Scott Coach Thread 2014-2015

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  1. revgen

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    The point is that he's showing that he could potentially give us 10ppg off the bench if he plays close to 20 minutes per game. Any player that can potentially score double-figures off the bench should be given more consideration. Especially on a team this bad.
     
    revgen, Nov 24, 2014
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    He could score 10ppg... only because he shoots it EVERY TIME he gets the ball ;).
     
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    Good.

    So he won't be watching Kobe like the rest of this team seems to do.
     
    revgen, Nov 24, 2014
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    ^ i didn't said it's a bad thing (especially now with Kobe chucking left and right).
     
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    This is seriously how Scott think you address the problem. "There will be days off."

    Scott himself didn't average 30+ MPG once over his final five seasons (age 31-35). He averaged under 20 MPG three of his final five seasons. Kobe's older than Scott at the end of Scott's career. Maybe start using your coconut, Byron.
     
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    Kobe should play 10, 6, 10, 6. That's 32 per game, and it gives him two lengthy rests.

    Had we asked Kobe to play only 32 minutes last night, he would have been a hero. He was 7 for his first 11, passed enough that fans were complaining (Don't pass to Sacre! Don't pass to Wes!). That's a good place for Kobe to be.
     
    trodgers, Nov 24, 2014
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    I remember how Phil was extremely consistent. He would pull out and bring players in at the same time every single game. Even when the games were close and fans were clamoring to put Kobe back in early during the 4th quarter, Phil would be patient, let Kobe rest, and wait till that 8 minute mark.
     
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    Very true. I also remember fans complaining about Phil's coaching and how he was managing minutes back then too. Some fans were even saying he needed to go so we could get a better coach :D

    Not suggesting Byron is anywhere near Phil's league, just saying fans always have an opinion where they think they know better, myself included at times.
     
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    Sacre has a nice jump shot and literally nothing else good about his game. Against Dallas he killed all positive momentum in that first quarter by inbounding the ball to the other team, fouling them, and letting them still score. Then Barea steals the next inbound and hits a three.

    The guy is a 3rd string Center. A good one, sure, but in an ideal situation Davis/Hill play our Center minutes every night. They do more to positively impact the game than Sacre and his surprisingly smooth jump shot.
     
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    So... we complained about MDA all the time, but the guy could draw some brilliant plays during timeouts. I've seen Byron draw something on his board too... but I'm not sure what that was. It can't possibly be those plays we've seen recently, right?

    Maybe it was this:

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    How was our offense when Kobe wasnt on the floor? Because from what I remember, its trash when he isnt?
     
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    According to 82games.com (last update November 20th)

    With Davis on the floor, we have a 66% Win%.

    With Sacre on the floor, we have a 63% Win%.

    With Hill on the floor, we have a 33% Win%.
     
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    That makes sense considering we have a losing team.
     
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    Yet we're losing less when Sacre and/or Davis are on the floor.
     
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    I'll believe what watching the games tells me, and it says that Sacre has a nice jumper, and nothing else as realdeal said
     
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    You're entitled to your opinion.
     
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    And you're entitled to your sir
     
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    Doesn't this stat just mean we are losing more when Boozer is on the floor since he plays with Hill a lot. Not sure how the stat works but could this also relate to the damage starters do to us against bad defenders like boozer and sadly Kobe vs the bench where the lead has ballooned and by the nature of basketball have a small rally? For example garbage time should not really figure in this stat as it is so much not about winning, but just putting an end to a blow out.
     
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    Oh the good ol' numbers never lie when making arguments lol.
     
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    I could buy the garbage time argument for Sacre. He's playing 10mpg. Davis, on the other hand is playing 22 minutes per game, so not all of that is being done in garbage time.

    The stats backup what I've seen so far this season. Boozer is a detriment to the team (He has an awful low 8.3% Win% so far, worse among all starters) and Hill has no business starting at the center position.

    However, what matters more is that when a team is this bad, you need to figure out what "isn't bad". Sacre and Davis, from a Win% standpoint, are some of the bright spots on the team. Boozer is the black hole. Both will have to play minutes if Boozer's butt goes to the bench. Against the Nuggets, we had a "less bad" team that could defend but who's offense still stinks. You gotta find improvement somewhere.
     
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