Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

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  1. Lakers2015

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    Sure, but most of this stuff is what people have already known. A guy like Whiteside or someone else who is seeking a max deal and their first pay day are they really gonna say no just because of one, clearly biased and one sided article? I just don't see it.
     
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    I listened to Woj's podcast on Durant and while he didn't name the Lakers and talked mostly about the Wizards, he said Durant and his camp have made it clear they're not going to sign in certain places because he wants them to just move on. Make it a clean, polite, and decisive "no" so that Washington (and LA) can just move on go do their thing. No hard feelings.

    I'm cool with it, seriously. I'd love if Durant wanted to come here, but if he doesn't want to then I'm glad he is going about it this way. I'm upset he's meeting with Boston and the Clippers for Christ's sake and will hold that against him going forward, but if he isn't interested then it frees up the FO to make more mature and heady decisions. Let's go get into meetings with guys like Whiteside and Parsons and Deng and Biyombo and whomever else.
     
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    And in the end, most athletes don't interact with the owners anyway. That's above their pay grade and barring someone coming down and yelling at them, most of the players just don't interact with owners much. Jerry Buss was pretty different in that regard. They'll be more worried about what Mitch and Luke have to say and maybe some of the current, or even older, players. Depending on the player we're talking to we can still bring in some of those business people too *cough*Whiteside*cough*.
     
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    That's just mean:Kobe Snickering:
     
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    Yeah, that's fine. We're just not in a position right now to contend. KD wants to contend, and he probably stays in OKC. He's not leaving this season, if ever, IMO. This season is about building around our young core and bringing in the FA's that help us enhance the talent level and improve us from a win/loss perspective. I think if we have a fun, young team, that shows potential, then we're good. I think we'll land somwhere in the neighborhood of 37-40 wins and that's a success, IMO.
     
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    Kd thing is a good dose of realityfor jim bob
     
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    They're not if the Lakers insist on believing they will get a meeting. Harken back to free agency the last couple of years and recall how jimmy and Mitch put all their chips on getting Carmelo and missed out on other free agents to build with believing that Carmelo was coming here because it's L.A. That Dynamic Duo is outdated and they risk doing the same thing again this year with KD.
     
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    I'm hopeful they'll get the picture before July 1st that a meeting with KD is only a waste of time, IMO. I think they'll focus on more obtainable targets.
     
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    I'm gonna try to spin my frustration about not even getting a meeting with KD into something positive: we have a REAL shot at Russell Westbrook next summer.

    The way I see it, the fact that Durant is even entertaining outside offers to the extent that he is at this point would lead one to believe that playing with Russell Westbrook isn't ideal to him in terms of Westbrook's style of play. If that's the case, why shut the Lakers down so early in the process, and not even grant them a meeting? It has to be because he thinks there's a great chance Russ will be here next year. Obviously I'm not chaining all my hopes to that wagon, but at the very least it's a theory that seems plausible.
     
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    I think if you're the Lakers you still make an effort to get the meeting, but they've got 60 million to spend. Go meet with 2-3 guys on Thursday and in that time frame you can still ask for a meeting a day or two later. We've got too much money to get hung up waiting on Durant. It doesn't even make sense to wait.
     
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    I just think it's a really bad look to express so much desperate hope to get just a meeting! I can understand announcing you will make a hard push for a particular free agent when they've made it known already that you will get a meeting. But when someone says they are not meeting with you, why show desperation at that point? Is that not akin to some snotty nosed kid trying to convince himself that the hot cheerleader will give him a chance if she will just allow him to say hi? Borderline embarrassing and degrading.
     
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    Has it been announced we're desperate? We're not the only ones hoping for a meeting at this juncture. Every team in the NBA besides the ones that have a meeting right now are hoping for a meeting. If anything I'm encouraged that there's a long, long list of names we're after. Horford, Whiteside, Parsons, Batum, Deng, etc. etc. I'm glad we're interested in all these guys.

    I'm also glad we're not interested in Howard.
     
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    I don't think Jim is done humiliating himself trying to get a meeting with KD. He's spent the last 3 seasons chasing hail-marys while missing out on valuable/getable free agents so why stop now?
     
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    I don't see it. Whiteside has made little money in his career. If we offer a max deal I have a hard time seeing him turn it down.
     
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    Exactly. I don't get this notion the Lakers are desperate. They've been trying to get a meeting with Durant so what? It's smart. The dude is the best free agent in the market and likely next year as well. Why not try and get a meeting and at least lay down your plan for the next season?
     
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    Not sure that there would be an official announcement of desperation. When has an organization ever literally announced their desperation?

    Extrapolating from the past several years of free agency and Ding's article, it looks pretty clear that the Lakers have been desperate in waiting for that prime free agent at the expense of losing out on a decent free agent, only to suggest that next year they will get the top free agent. If you believe Ding at all, then this has been the approach for several years and apparently to the degree that jimmy and Mitch's hope has been delusional. You don't think it was desperate to beg for a do over with Lamarcus Aldridge last year after that completely embarrassing first pitch? I respect Alridge for even giving the Lakers a second pitch, which helped them save some face.
     
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