Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

Wow you leave for 12 hours and then there's a 5 page discussion about Conley to the Lakers. Weird... I'd take Conley. I like him a lot, but it's not exactly our greatest position of need and he's not likely to come here. The thing interests me about Conley is that if he goes, Marc Gasol could become a dump candidate as the Grizzlies look to rebuild. If Marc is healthy he becomes a fantastic fit for this team. Not perfect maybe, but a really good fit.

D'Angelo is a throwback kind of guard actually. He's not a PG and he's not a SG, he's just a guard in the classic sense. He has a tremendous feel for the game and he wants to model himself after Curry well that means he's mostly looking to shoot/score but his tremendous vision should open things up for the rest of the team. Jerry West wasn't exactly a PG or a SG, he was just a guy who went out there and made plays. That's how I see Russell.

Hawes/22 dump is interesting, but @abeer3 the interesting part of this draft is that all the teams in the mid-late 1st are trying to abandon this draft but nobody is biting. They can't even turn these 1sts into future 1sts because everyone knows future 1sts are more valuable. Teams like Philly and Boston have been trying to package these picks off and nobody is finding value in them. There could be mid-late 1sts for sale tonight while teams continue to bail on what is looked at as a pretty weak draft filled with middling talent. It's a buyer's market. That being said Hawes/22 is interesting. His numbers really fell off a cliff the last couple seasons and I worry about whether or not he is actually interested in playing basketball. It might be that the Clippers are such a bland organization that he didn't enjoy it there after he got paid or it might be that he just wanted to get paid and then rest on his laurels. I don't know.

I also feel like you can get a great 1st round talent at #32 tonight if you play your cards right while teams shuffle in and out of the 1st in front of you. Someone is going to drop. I'm hoping it's DeAndre Bembry. I like that kid's game.

 

Yeah, I love Conley but I don't really get it. Why is he leaving Memphis for us with a bunch of young guns? I don't see it. And like realdeal said, not really a position of highest need for us. We need a center desperately. We need another wing/3 with some vet experience. I don't think we need a starting PG to eat up Clarkson and Russell's minutes. We could use a good backup PG for the bench as an upgrade to Huertas but it's not do or die and he shouldn't eat up the amount of salary that Conley will take.

 

I don't want Conley either, but I want us to reject him for legit reasons.

 

I agree from a professional standpoint on how to act on and off the court Conley would be fantastic for Russell. I just don't see the FO, making a hard push for him. Not to mention by reports it sounds like Conley prefers Texas teams right now.

 

You did what?

Guards with <16 PPG and <6 APG in the ASG: 38
Rare in this age? Yes. Has it happened? Yes.
If you move it up to <18, <6, you get 65 players, including Tony Parker, Jameer Nelson, Mo Williams, and Manu (twice).
Why would you move it to <18, <6? Because Conley has averaged, over the past three years:
16.2 points and 5.8 rebounds. His totals were 17.2/6.1, 15.8/5.4, and 15.3/6.1.

I don't know why those are the indicators. If we look at PER, and we see his 20 and 19+ PER in the past three seasons, we might ask how many players who were Guards made the ASG with a PER below 20. The answer is 250. This includes 26 in the past ten seasons, or 2.6 per season.

At some point, I think you have to accept that there are good reasons to believe something and there are bad reasons to believe something.

I think it's clear that Conley is All Star Caliber. He's better than many Guards who have made the ASG.
I think it's also clear that he's not a role player.

These two claims are beside the point, however, as the essential claim is that although Conley isn't my top choice (I want a Center then a SG, ideally a SG/SF versatile wing), if we added Whiteside and Conley, we'd be a) a much better team b) more attractive to real role players (you know, like bench players or guys who do one or two things well - unlike Conley who can shoot, distribute, brings veteran savvy, and play defense).

 

I don't think I remember one person saying that Conley should be a first, second, or third target, or even that we need a PG. If I missed it, I apologize.

 

What does his contract look like. I would consider this and try to get Malik Beasley with the #22. Really like that guy's talents and work ethic.

 

We could add Horford and Deng, add Hawes, and stretch Young. We'd be okay.

Russell/vet min
Clarkson/Williams
Deng/Ingram
Randle/Nance/#22
Horford/Hawes/#32

We'd be under cap.