Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

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  1. trodgers

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    The only FA PG who intrigues me. We'd have to go small.
     
    trodgers, Jun 15, 2016
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    Interesting backup lineup of Clarkson, Lou, and Young at this point. Scoring mentality for sure.
     
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    I'm not exactly interested in Conley but what that DOES do is open us up maybe as a dump spot for Marc Gasol who would be a perfect fit for what we're looking for (when healthy). That contract is so enormous too that we might not have to give up much more than a pick or something for Gasol.
     
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    This is why I want to trade for Boston's Memphis pick in a few years. If they totally suck, it will be a valuable pick while they rebuild.
    Might not be worth moving down in this draft if Ingram works out, but I don't see Memphis keep both of those guys.
    They were good, but couldn't get over the hump. Better off blowing up and rebuilding IMHO.
     
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    to me, the only reason for memphis to be concerned about conley's FA is if they don't plan on offering the full max. in which case, he's definitely out of there, imo.

    i'm with real: i don't think i take him on the lakers, just given roster fit and age (plus, i'm sure he wants to win right now), but i'd be calling on marc, for certain. i do think it would take assets, though. with the cap the way it is, there's no real incentive to dump someone on gasol's salary.
     
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    Gasol is going to be a 25 million dollar a year guy though. He's got something like 70-80 million left on his deal I think. I can't imagine it'd take a ton to get him just because he's a) older, b) injury risk now, and c) expensive even under the new cap. Trading for him would be essentially signing Whiteside to a max deal.

    I think they're concerned because Conley has been adamant that they add pieces this summer, but Memphis doesn't have many options. If Conley is seriously considering jumping ship, Memphis is in big trouble. Heck dumping Marc might be their ticket to adding something else in FA. They could have 41 million in cap space if they waived everyone including Conley. Conley will cost them about 25 million which means just 16 million available to spend. Not much there for them with that kind of money. If they move Gasol (who by the way I just found out has a 15% trade kicker yikes!) that frees up a ton of money for them.
     
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    gasol is 21 next year, then 22, 24, and finally 25. it's going to be rough on the back end, but in the short term, he's going to be paid like whiteside, howard, and maybe even...gulp...biyombo. i imagine someone would give up something for him. plus, memphis doesn't have other big contracts on the books going forward, so there's not great dump motivation. now, he could ask for a trade if they suck, but the lakers certainly wouldn't be on his list of destinations.

    as for your latter scenario, that's a lot of dominoes falling quickly. they'd have to know conley was gone and move gasol before the rest of the market dried up. and then they'd have to convince high quality FAs to come to memphis, which has happened never. not even when they've been good.
     
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    I was just spit-balling for the second scenario, you're right it's unlikely the timing would work out that way.

    However, I think it's 50/50 Conley leaves right now because like you said Memphis isn't a destination and like I said they've got only 16 million in a blown up cap to make something out of nothing. If I'm Conley I'm looking around maybe at San Antonio or even a fringe East team like the Pacers?

    In the scenario that Conley leaves, they'd have a bunch of money to spend. I wonder if they start dumping salaries then or if they try to wait it out. Tough call for them. I'm not sure who out there gives up a bunch for Gasol, but I haven't been researching it too much. Portland? Orlando? Phoenix? Boston?
     
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    Conley and Whiteside would be a pretty awesome haul, adding two clear All-Star caliber players.

    Conley/Williams
    Russell/Clarkson
    Ingram/Young
    Randle/Nance
    Whiteside/Black

    That would be a pretty cool team. We'd enjoy watching it, and they'd make some noise. I agree, however, that I'd rather see an upgrade at another position and let Russell run the show.
     
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    I've enjoyed reading these
     
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    Hard to find a center who's under the radar, but they're the best of that bunch. I really don't want any of those wings or guards. None are better than Young and Williams. If they're not better than our backups, we don't need em.
     
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    I'm not going to lie, Dwight Howard is just so got damn intriguing no matter how big of a douche he is. Theoretically we could construct a team (Lineup) that would most resemble his Orlando days where he wasn't a total dope on offense. Sign Dwight + Deng + 1 of Afflalo/Courtney Lee

    DAR / Clarkson
    Afflalo / Lou
    Ingram / Deng
    Randle / Nance
    Dwight / Black

    We have a ton of shooting and the ability to Dwight centered w/........DAR / Afflalo / Ingram / Deng / Dwight.......or go small w/........DAR / Afflalo / Ingram / Deng / Randle

    I think it's a complete team and balanced both offensively and defensively with the ability to go big or small and matchup with multiple teams. But Dwight is a douche and the Lakers have said they aren't interested so the point is probably moot.
     
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    Here's my well thought out and articulate rebuttal to that ^^^

    F*** no, are you high?
     
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    Maybe there's someone who can fill that Dwight role - for less. I mean, Biyombo doesn't have the offense, and he won't obviously be cheaper (but he might be!). Mahinmi might be an intriguing option there.

    I've been on the Deng/Afflalo bandwagon at times. If we could land them, it makes a pretty impressive 3/D combo with our young dudes.
     
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    :Laugh:

    If Dwight was 2 years younger, I'd give it some thought.
     
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    :Laugh::Laugh:
    Don't hurt Dwight's feelings like that. :dwightcrying:

    I'm just saying if we ended up with that team, I'm not going to complain. We are back in the playoffs with that squad.

    I think Whiteside fills that role the best, he's kind of the mix between Bynum (Not enough post game) and Dwight (Not as athletic) which would be great. I don't think anyone else can give that Dwight Howard effect on offense where he still draws double team and opens up shots for others, it would be a different type of offensive approach with the guys you mentioned (Which isn't a bad thing, probably more in line with what Luke wants to be honest).

    But yea with both of those guys on the wings + Ingram and Russell our perimeter defense would probably be the best since Kobe/MWP or Kobe/Ariza.
     
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    :Kobe Snickering:

    No offense to Doc. See where he's coming from. But the response is golden.
     
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    I'm with @Doc Brown a little... My mind has circled back to Howard a couple times, but then I remember his mental makeup and I say nevermind. I think I'd rather overpay for Noah than have Dwight even with Dwight's talents being what we need.

    I refuse to get seduced by his natural ability knowing he doesn't have the heart.
     
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    Do our young players respect Dwight? I'm serious. If we bring in a vet, I want someone our young guys can look up to, respect, and listen to.
     
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