Terrorist Kills 50 And Wounds 53 More In Gay Nightclub In Orlando

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-20160612-snap-story.html

Omar Mateen, who authorities say could have been a radical Muslim terrorist, entered the nightclub at around 2 in the morning and began opening fire with a shotgun, a handgun, and what has so far been an unidentified device that could have been a bomb.

This is the largest massacre in modern history.

I say "terrorist" by the way because this was an act of terror on the LGBT community, not because he may or may not have been a Muslim extremist.

The death toll is expected to increase as some of those 53 people are critcally injured.

 

Most clubs don't have armed guards, just bouncers outside who are meant to intimidate people.

 

Terrible, absolutely terrible. So much hate in the world simply because people are different. The question I ask myself is will this open any eyes of anti-gay people in our own country as to what pushing their hateful agendas can really inspire in extreme cases, or will they not even care? Maybe some good can at least come out of this and hateful people can start viewing others that are different than them as people, the human beings they are, instead of some perceived evil or immoral group.

 

Awful stuff. I think all of my friends are safe, but there are obviously many people in Orlando who cannot say that. Terrible, terrible news. I've lived in Orlando for the past five years. This is the second attempted massacre here since I've been here (the first was thwarted at UCF).

A few things about this case, as far I can understand:
There was an armed guard at the club - at least one. He was an off duty police officer working security. He shot at the suspect, in fact.
The suspect was not only screened in every way we ask in the US; he was, moreover, on the FBI watch list and had an open case for some time (it was later closed for insufficient evidence).
Third, you don't have to be crazy to do awful things; some terrible human beings are not crazy. He also abused his ex-wife "routinely" when they were married.

 

You're right about the armed security officer, I had forgotten about that.

It's shocking to me that he was able to acquire not just one, but two weapons in less than a week. Shocking. I mean I know everyone will turn this into a political issue, but it's kind of not. That is an enormous fault of whomever he bought that gun from. I mean my father-in-law has a couple of marijuana arrests and he can't buy a gun anymore (he had a bunch, but they took them from him). How does a guy on the FBI list get two guns in less than a week? That shop needs to lose their license and should honestly be barred from selling weapons. Unacceptable.

On another note, someone in Los Angeles was stopped and arrested with an automatic weapon and ammunition in his trunk on the way to a Los Angeles Gay Pride rally. Scary stuff...

 

They do, every time, and people still say they're waiting for them to condemn it. I don't know who else they expect to condemn it

 

Let's not do this here. Go here:

http://lakersball.com/threads/a-little-perspective-on-religion.37/page-8#post-71253

 

Please not in Open Court.

Take this aspect o the discussion to the Religion and Politics area.

I just don't want this thread to turn into an argument. We have a whole area of LB for that:


http://lakersball.com/threads/a-little-perspective-on-religion.37/page-8#post-71253

 

Seriously please. I hate that today's Twitter society takes moments of horror like this and it becomes a political agenda for any political party.

We no longer take the time to empathize and process tragedy. Instead everyone takes an immediate political stance and starts pushing agendas.

 

Sad world we live in.

And we'll say all this in a month or two when it happens again. And that's really sad too.