Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

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  1. CaCHooKa Man

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    As expected, the media has already called the race for Hillary. Bernie can't cave though. He said he's fighting until the delegates actually vote at the convention and he better keep his word. A few victories tomorrow and he'll have some decent momentum. The media will act like the race is over and the final victories don't mean anything because Hillary won her last few primaries before Obama clinched the nomination, but it really doesn't matter. He just has to stay standing and hope the FBI finally indicts Hillary. Because after the state department pretty much confirmed that Hillary's use of a private server was against their rules, a lot of people are thinking that at this point it's almost a foregone conclusion that Hillary deserves to be indicted. The issue is that now it's evolved past a simple case of "did Hillary compromise national security by incompetently using a private server to host her emails" into "the content of these private emails she was trying to hide incriminate the Clintons in things much more more nefarious then just an old lady not knowing how to use email, and now there needs to be a much more intensive investigation"
     
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    The thing is even when she's indicted by the government she's trying to convince to elect her as President, the DNC won't go to Bernie with the secondary nomination. They'll go with someone else like Biden or something that they feel more comfortable with. The DNC doesn't want Bernie to be President. He poses a threat to their status quo and thus their livelihood if he is true to his word about getting private business out of government. He's also a socialist which is against what the two traditional power parties have stood for.
     
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    Very true. It would probably take the perfect storm for Bernie to get the nomination:

    Hillary Indictment + Winning big today + Extreme public pressure

    But he's polling better than Hillary nationally right now, so I wonder if he should just go independent. Not sure if he even can anymore though.
     
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    I'm sure he's signed a form saying he wouldn't. And if he did, that splits the Democratic vote and likely Trump walks into the White House.

    Sad state of affairs politics is today. I can't even watch the news cover it anymore it makes my skin crawl.
     
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    So this just got exposed.

    Someone should tell Hillary's campaign how the internet works. The image Associated Press used to announce Hillary winning the Democratic nomination was sent out to Hillary supporters 2 days before AP made the announcement, and it's the exact same image Hillary sent out.

    This is just way too dumb to be real, but an LA Times reporter is confirming this:

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    BUSTED: AP & Clinton Caught Colluding For “Secret Win”
    BY SEATTLE4TRUTH · JUNE 7, 2016

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    Last night, the Associated Press made a really controversial move by announcing that Clinton is now the “presumptive nominee”, a move which seemingly came out of nowhere — considering California’s primaries are today.

    Many suspected that the move was due to collusion between AP and the Clinton camps, with the goal being to disenfranchise Bernie supporters in CA by making them think that resistance is futile. Everyone suspected the play, but nobody could prove it. Until people who received an official email from the Clinton camps looked at the name of the image in the email, and discovered some strange things.



    I saw some Tweets about this last night but I didn’t really want to write about it until it was confirmed a bit more. Now even verified reporters at LA Times have confirmed it.




    Apparently, the image is dated 6/4, which was 2 days before the AP made the announcement, and it was the exact same tweet that ended up getting published. Further more, the name “secret win” goes to show you that they planned this move specifically to disenfranchise voters.

    It’s hilarious to watch the media get exposed like this, because they made a rookie mistake. I can just feel that #BernieOrBust movement growing stronger, which is only a boon for Trump.







    #SecretWin is starting to go nuts"

    http://theralphretort.com/busted-ap-clinton-caught-colluding-secret-win-0607016/
     
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    ^^ The timing was just too convenient. She "wins" the day before the critical California primary? All an effort to get Bernie supporters to stay home.

    Anyone remember when the media wasn't the right hand of the politicians?
     
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    Voter suppression at it's finest...

     
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    Well, whatever. I did my part, voted for Bernie this afternoon, I can sleep at night knowing I didn't vote for Hillary or do nothing at all. When it comes time to vote Hillary vs Trump..well then I don't know what the hell I'll do, Trump would make Saturday Night Live relevant again, and I don't actually believe he's really evil or will do a lot of what he says.
     
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    wow, i'd just stay home come election day

    is donald trump someone you would really trust with nuclear codes? or with anything for that matter?

    and clinton basically sums up everything wrong with the political system in america. a completely bought out, corporate puppet

    either way, what a disaster
     
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    He's not evil, just stupid, immature, and unfit to represent a nation.
     
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    Now... short off an indictment... it's over.

    This country is f***ing stupid. We will be very sorry with either Trump or Hillary in office
     
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    That's an understatement.
     
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    Yeah I'm sorry Barns. I know how passionate you were about this and how much you wanted Bernie to happen. Part of me wanted him to win just so that you (and large groups of other people I know) would feel vindicated by your effort.

    Unfortunately Hillary is a shady piece of **** that was always going to win this because she's willing to do all the shady things Bernie is unwilling to do. There is no justice in politics these days. I mean obviously right? Considering that Hillary Clinton is an outright criminal and she's moments away from a Presidential Nomination.

    I honestly think this means Trump walks into the White House and the world laughs at us. We likely have some of the most chaotic years the United States have ever seen with people who hate Trump acting out and Trump responding.

    Maybe the only hope of this country is Trump and Hillary are exposed in their respective illegal activities leading up to the election and both parties are forced to choose someone else and we end up with something like Ryan vs. Biden. Unlikely but other than that the American people are about to suffer some of the worst and most embarrassing four years in the history of this country. If we don't see that we MUST change the system this time around, then I don't know what can happen.
     
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    I'm just so disgusted right now.

    I voted for Obama on his first run. He didn't keep lobbyists out of his cabinet and so I didn't vote for him the second time around. I saw that he was not the man I thought he was, and so I corrected course.

    How many times do people need to see the establishment candidate do nothing for them of importance, watch the middle class fade off into extinction while watching these politicians and the companies that pay them off get rich? This system is f***ed, and we can't support it as it is.

    This is so f***ing frustrating
     
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    I'm with you. It's why I've been down on this s*** from the beginning.

    The horrible truth is, it's been this way for decades but we're only just now reaching the breaking point. It's one thing to pick between Bush/Gore or Bill Clinton/Dole or even Obama/Romney because none of those people was universally despised but now the American people think we have to settle for the two most disliked candidates in history?

    How does that work? How is that nearly 60% of the country hates both these candidates and yet we're supposed to pick between them? Doesn't that seem wrong to anyone else? Somehow that doesn't sound like democracy to me.
     
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    Actually it dies with horrifying anger and chaos. I mean Trump isn't even President and look at the way people act at his rallies. Once Hillary is elected be prepared to see more people acting like that at HER rallies too given what a snake she is.

    Liberty dies with the American people too confused to fight back. I don't think it will though. I believe in the American people to stand up for themselves.
     
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    is there any chance clinton finally gets indicted and the GOP somehow kicks trump to the curb?

    then i could see it being something like ryan vs biden. which still sucks but i'm pretty sure most people would rather vote for one of those two than the two clowns currently running
     

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