Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

Trumps announced today he won't debate Bernie. Like Hillary, no win situation.

 

Trump said he's requiring 10 million dollars to debate, DONE!

So now what is he going to do?:

"These CEOs Just Called Trump’s Bluff by Offering $20 Million for Sanders Debate
Tom Cahill | May 27, 2016FacebookTwitter

Donald Trump now has no reason left to back out of a potential Bernie Sanders / Donald Trump debate in California.

Tech industry investment firm Traction and Scale (T&S) wants to host the Sanders / Trump debate, and is willing to donate Donald Trump’s ransom of $10 million to charity in return. T&S CEO Richie Hecker told BuzzFeed News that he aims to host the debate in California on Monday, June 6, one day before California voters cast their ballots in the state’s primary, which is seen as Bernie Sanders’ last stand to remain competitive with Hillary Clinton.

Hecker laid out his vision for such a debate in a public statement to BuzzFeed News:

We would host the debate as a physical event and live stream it to the world. As a technology incubator and investment company, Traction and Scale builds transformative user experiences and will host the debate on our cutting-edge mobile technology. We have distribution to 250MM Americans on social media through this channel.

The debate format would focus on compromise and solutions. We would invite the candidates to look at the forum less as a debate, and more as a negotiation for the future of America. We believe that Mr Sanders and Mr Trump collectively represent the voice of the American people. We are confident that convening the voice of the people in a nonpartisan forum will spark the revolution and make America great again.

Trump, who this week secured the delegates necessary to clinch the Republican presidential nomination, told late night host Jimmy Kimmel he’d be willing to debate Sanders in California if a large sum of money was raised for charity. The billionaire real estate magnate stood by that statement at a press conference in North Dakota upon officially securing his party’s nomination, saying Sanders was a “dream” debate opponent, and that he would debate the Vermont senator in the Golden State should $10-15 million be raised for women’s health.

Sen. Sanders has pounced on the opportunity, calling for the debate to be held in “the biggest stadium possible.” In addition to Hecker, boxing legend and Top Rank CEO Bob Arum also offered to promote a Sanders / Trump debate on pay-per-view, pledging that at least $20 million would be donated to a charity of the candidates’ choosing, with moderators agreed upon by the candidates.

California has 475 pledged delegates at stake, and Sen. Sanders is only 272 pledged delegates behind Hillary Clinton. Neither Clinton nor Sanders are expected to clinch the Democratic nomination in pledged delegates alone before the Democratic National Convention in July"

http://usuncut.com/politics/sanders-trump-debate-ceos/

 

IMO, Trump is a fool to debate Bernie and will be handing California to Bernie and possibly the WH.

 

Trump really doesn't have much to gain here. He's already up in the poles over Hillary. He already has name recognition. The only thing is he's said he feels bad about how the DNC has treated Bernie, so let's see if he really does.

 

And that day... Freedom recoiled in terror

 

#ChickenTrump is viral.

 

I don't think McCain looked any less healthy than Bernie at the time. The reason people don't care is because it was a stupid narrative drummed up by the media. Now that there's someone of similar age, in fact older, that people LIKE the attack looks preposterous. Here's McCain's ad from 08 next to one of Bernie's.

 

Yeah it's just something to kind of point out media bias when for years most people denied it (not anyone here necessarily). The companies that own these news networks all donate to certain campaigns. I believe one of Hillary's biggest contributors is Time Warner.

 

"Clinton Might Not Be the Nominee
A Sanders win in California would turbocharge the mounting Democratic unease about her viability.




There is now more than a theoretical chance that Hillary Clinton may not be the Democratic nominee for president.

How could that happen, given that her nomination has been considered a sure thing by virtually everyone in the media and in the party itself? Consider the possibilities.

The inevitability behind Mrs. Clinton’s nomination will be in large measure eviscerated if she loses the June 7 California primary to Bernie Sanders. That could well happen.


Hoover Institution Research Fellow Bill Whalen on the latest Golden State poll and the implications for next week's presidential primary. Photo credit: Getty Images.
A recent PPIC poll shows Mrs. Clinton with a 2% lead over Mr. Sanders, and a Fox News survey found the same result. Even a narrow win would give him 250 pledged delegates or more—a significant boost. California is clearly trending to Mr. Sanders, and the experience in recent open primaries has been that the Vermont senator tends to underperform in pre-election surveys and over-perform on primary and caucus days, thanks to the participation of new registrants and young voters.

To this end, data from mid-May show that there were nearly 1.5 million newly registered Democratic voters in California since Jan. 1. That’s a 218% increase in Democratic voter registrations compared with the same period in 2012, a strongly encouraging sign for Mr. Sanders.

A Sanders win in California would powerfully underscore Mrs. Clinton’s weakness as a candidate in the general election. Democratic superdelegates—chosen by the party establishment and overwhelmingly backing Mrs. Clinton, 543-44—would seriously question whether they should continue to stand behind her candidacy.

There is every reason to believe that at the convention Mr. Sanders will offer a rules change requiring superdelegates to vote for the candidate who won their state’s primary or caucus. A vote on that proposed change would almost certainly occur—and it would function as a referendum on the Clinton candidacy. If Mr. Sanders wins California, Montana and North Dakota on Tuesday and stays competitive in New Jersey, he could well be within 200 pledged delegates of Mrs. Clinton, making a vote in favor of the rules change on superdelegates more likely.

Another problem: In recent weeks the perception that Mrs. Clinton would be the strongest candidate against Donald Trump has evaporated. The Real Clear Politics polling average has Mrs. Clinton in a statistical tie with Mr. Trump, and recent surveys from ABC News/Washington Post and Fox News show her two and three points behind him, respectively.

Then there is that other crack in the argument for Mrs. Clinton’s inevitability: Bernie Sanders consistently runs stronger than she does against Mr. Trump nationally, beating him by about 10 points in a number of recent surveys.

The worries about Mr. Sanders’s strength have stirred the beginnings of a capitulation to him—by the Clinton camp, in league with the Democratic National Committee—at the convention. To placate him, they have already granted Mr. Sanders greater influence over the party platform. Two divisive figures, Cornel West and Rep. Keith Ellison, have been added to the platform committee, ensuring that the party will be pulled further left. In addition to putting Mr. Sanders’s socialist nostrums on display, the platform negotiations are likely to spur an ugly fight over the U.S. relationship with Israel.

Mrs. Clinton also faces growing legal problems. The State Department inspector general’s recent report on Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state made it abundantly clear that she broke rules and has been far from forthright in her public statements. The damning findings buttressed concerns within the party that Mrs. Clinton and her aides may not get through the government’s investigation without a finding of culpability somewhere.

With Mrs. Clinton reportedly soon to be interviewed by the FBI, suggesting that the investigation is winding up, a definitive ruling by the attorney general could be issued before the July 25 Democratic convention in Philadelphia. Given the inspector general’s report, a clean bill of health from the Justice Department is unlikely.

Finally, with Mrs. Clinton’s negative rating nearly as high as Donald Trump’s, and with voters not trusting her by a ratio of 4 to 1, Democrats face an unnerving possibility. Only a month or two ago, they were relishing the prospect of a chaotic Republican convention, with a floor fight and antiestablishment rebellion in the air. Now the messy, disastrous convention could be their own.

There are increasing rumblings within the party about how a new candidate could emerge at the convention. John Kerry, the 2004 nominee, is one possibility. But the most likely scenario is that Vice President Joe Biden—who has said that he regrets “every day” his decision not to run—enters the race.

Mr. Biden would be cast as the white knight rescuing the party, and the nation, from a possible Trump presidency. To win over Sanders supporters, he would likely choose as his running mate someone like Sen. Elizabeth Warren who is respected by the party’s left wing.

Where is President Obama in all this? So far he has largely stayed out of the campaign, other than to say that he doesn’t believe Mrs. Clinton compromised national security with her home-brew email server. But with her poll numbers dropping, her legal headaches increasing, the Sanders candidacy showing renewed vigor, and Donald Trump looming as a wrecking ball for the president’s legacy, Mr. Obama and adviser Valerie Jarrett might begin sending signals to the Democratic National Committee and to the vice president that a Biden rescue operation wouldn’t displease the White House.

All of these remain merely possibilities. But it is easier now than ever to imagine a scenario in which Hillary Clinton—whether by dint of legal or political circumstances—is not the Democratic presidential nominee.
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-might-not-be-the-nominee-1464733898

 

he does so much better with a Teleprompter.

 

Wow he definitely lost his train of thought.

I've been there. A lot! Even the crowd was kind shook by it.

 

"
Bernie Sanders Just Picked Up More Superdelegates
Tom Cahill | June 2, 2016FacebookTwitter

Bernie Sanders’ appeal to superdelegates appears to be catching on, as superdelegates from three different states have pledged to support Sanders.

Earlier today, New Hampshire State Senator Martha Fuller Clark said she would be casting her superdelegate vote for the Vermont senator at the Democratic National Convention in July. Earlier this week, Sanders also earned the support of Democratic national committeewoman Elaine Harris, of West Virginia, along with new Hawaii Democratic Party chairTim Vandeveer.

While Hillary Clinton is still beating Sanders in superdelegates by a 543-44 margin, a wide majority of Clinton’s superdelegates pledged to back the former Secretary of State months before the first primaries and caucuses. Sanders aims to make an argument to Clinton’s superdelegates at this year’s national convention in Philadelphia to convince them that he would make a stronger general election candidate against Donald Trump.

The Democratic nomination may ultimately come down to superdelegate votes cast at the convention, as neither Clinton nor Sanders are expected to earn 2,383 pledged delegates by the time the last ballots are counted in the final round of primaries and caucuses this month. While Clinton leads Sanders by 270 pledged delegates, there arenearly 900 more pledged delegates available in the remaining 9 contests."

http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-picked-three-superdelegates-week/

 

Well, I'll be going to vote for Bernie on Tuesday, got an alert about it yesterday and the closest place it's being held for me is less than a mile from my house, right around the corner. I don't know what one vote will mean, but then I guess they all add up in the end. I have to do my part to try even if Hillary still wins.

 

The Associated Press is reporting Hillary has enough delegates to secure the party nomination.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ratic-nomination-ap-reports.html?intcmp=hpbt3

 

She hasn't won the nomination. Super Delegates don't vote till July 25th