Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

I love following politics, but these candidates have soured me on the process. I'm frustrated and really feel like we don't have a vote.

 

You guys here what happened in the Nevada Convention?

The DNC disqualified 64 Bernie delegates and only 8 for Hillary. They said those delegates were registered as Republicans. But then it just came out that in Iowa, a Bernie campaign staff called a Bernie Delegate to see why he decided to switch to registering as a Republican. The Bernie Delegate had no idea what the guy was talking about. He never switched his registration to Republican. He had been a Democrat for at least 10 years I think. The implication being that the DNC has been switching Delegate registrations for Bernie Delegates in order to disqualify them from voting in the Dem conventions.

In Nevada, during the convention a few nights ago, this was brought up by a representative. The DNC chair had to put it to a yay or nay vote. It looks like most of the people there voted yay, to look into the matter, but the DNC chair said the nays have it, and then immediately, left with 20 Nevada Sheriffs Department members to guard her exit because the crowd was about to riot. And so, Hillary now stole back all the Nevada Delegate counts she lost before when Bernie won the district Delegate counts.

The DNC is just so blatant in rigging this election it's a crime against the American people. I truly believe Bernie would be ahead of Hillary right now if it wasn't rigged.

If they keep this up, there will be a riot at the DNC convention. And the DNC will suddenly have an inordinate amount of police decked out in riot gear before the riot even occurs, because the DNC knows what they are doing.

This is going to come to a really bad head if something drastic doesn't happen soon.

 

1. This election is the embodiment of all the negativity that's been around politics now for decades. We the people are not represented anymore. I mostly vote Republican (fiscal reasons) but when Bush lost the general election, he should not have been President. This is not a democracy. Nothing so blatant as the DNC's attempted force of Clinton into office has ever been tried before. I can't say I'm surprised given Hillary's past, but it is quite shocking to see play out.

2. The end of this political structure is coming. I suggest you guys buckle up for some tough times when it does. The American people will not long stand for all of this. The politicians control the media, they control the news we hear. That's been true for decades too. Why is that everyone s***s on the Republican party for so long in the mainstream media? That lead to more partisanship as Republican supporters were forced into their own media outlets and had to rail against the others creating discord (hello Limbaugh). There's too much money at play here for this to go smoothly, but when the American people rise against this government things will get tough. I see it coming already and that's not some bombshelter, scared survivalist thing. That's just practicality. Regime changes are basically never easy.

3. Why do we hear constantly and consistently about nothing but Trump bashing by 90% of news outlets, but nobody is trashing Clinton and the DNC for this? The American people clearly want to choose between Trump and Sanders (Lord knows why Trump is on that list). I know literally one Clinton supporter at this point and she's a feminist with little grasp on politics. The DNC should be getting absolutely trashed for this, but only FOX News will report it and every other news source makes FOX out to be a bunch of idiots which has swayed the American people to distrust them as a source of news (FOX has also at times helped that cause).

Bad stuff is coming people! Get ready.

 

I hope for an early indictment for Clinton. But I bet the DNC would just run Joe Biden then, instead of listening to the people.

 

There is no chance the DNC allows Sanders to represent them. He poses too big a threat to the money funding the party. Should Hillary rightfully be indicted, they'll got to Biden or some other such Democrat lackey.

 

I don't hate Biden nearly as much as Shillary, but you're right, he'd just go along with the establishment and whatever they wanted.

Sanders only gets to be the Democratic nominee if Shillary gets indicted, and some other highly improbable things happen, but I will hold out the faith.

 

I can't anymore Barns. I've given up on the process doing the right thing. For goodness sake the parties in power have us about to choose between Hillary Clinton and Donald f***ing Trump. It's astoundingly disappointing.

 

I feel like I can't be resigned to this s***. I have to hope for better or I'm accepting it being even worse for my kids by the time they grow up.

 

I'm not accepting it necessarily, but I'm not sure there's much we can do about it this particular moment. I believe real change is coming though.

 

"PRESS RELEASE
Sanders Statement on Nevada
MAY 17, 2016

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders on Tuesday issued the following statement:

“It is imperative that the Democratic leadership, both nationally and in the states, understand that the political world is changing and that millions of Americans are outraged at establishment politics and establishment economics. The people of this country want a government which represents all of us, not just the 1 percent, super PACs and wealthy campaign contributors.

“The Democratic Party has a choice. It can open its doors and welcome into the party people who are prepared to fight for real economic and social change – people who are willing to take on Wall Street, corporate greed and a fossil fuel industry which is destroying this planet. Or the party can choose to maintain its status quo structure, remain dependent on big-money campaign contributions and be a party with limited participation and limited energy.

“Within the last few days there have been a number of criticisms made against my campaign organization. Party leaders in Nevada, for example, claim that the Sanders campaign has a ‘penchant for violence.’ That is nonsense. Our campaign has held giant rallies all across this country, including in high-crime areas, and there have been zero reports of violence. Our campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals. But, when we speak of violence, I should add here that months ago, during the Nevada campaign, shots were fired into my campaign office in Nevada and apartment housing complex my campaign staff lived in was broken into and ransacked.

“If the Democratic Party is to be successful in November, it is imperative that all state parties treat our campaign supporters with fairness and the respect that they have earned. I am happy to say that has been the case at state conventions in Maine, Alaska, Colorado and Hawaii where good discussions were held and democratic decisions were reached. Unfortunately, that was not the case at the Nevada convention. At that convention the Democratic leadership used its power to prevent a fair and transparent process from taking place. Among other things:

• • The chair of the convention announced that the convention rules passed on voice vote, when the vote was a clear no-vote. At the very least, the Chair should have allowed for a headcount.
  • The chair allowed its Credentials Committee to en mass rule that 64 delegates were ineligible without offering an opportunity for 58 of them to be heard. That decision enabled the Clinton campaign to end up with a 30-vote majority.
  • The chair refused to acknowledge any motions made from the floor or allow votes on them.
    The chair refused to accept any petitions for amendments to the rules that were properly submitted.

“These are on top of failures at the precinct and county conventions including trying to depose and then threaten with arrest the Clark County convention credentials chair because she was operating too fairly.”"

 

Last night Bernie won Oregon, and virtual tied Hillary in Kentucky.

 

But that means the delegates from there are split evenly, so it's basically a tie. Obama lost big to her in KT last election, so this is progress.