Of that list, I think many of them aren't available for trades. I don't think Utah wants to trade Gordon Hayward for anything short of a future star. I hope I'm wrong. I think he's awesome and would fit a Luke/GS offense beautifully, but I don't think Utah is looking to let him go like that. I think we've had the discussion before where the only way they'll let go of Hayward in this market is if someone eats one of their contracts (namely Alec Burks). I don't think we could get Lopez, Young, Gasol, Randolph, Jordan, Harris, Evans, Lopez(s), Oladipo, Okafor, Bledsoe, Knight, Len, Cousins, Green, Gobert, Favors, Parker, or Hayward. I think the third is worth more than Smart, Turner, Sullinger, Kidd-Gilchrist, Gibson, Mirotic, Mozgov, Redick, Carter-Williams, Muhommad, Gordon, Waiters, Embiid, Warren, Goodwin, Ross, and Porter. I think Pekovic, Asik, Kanter, Dragic, maybe Bosh, Carroll, Carmelo, Monroe, Shumpert, and Chandler are all interesting dump candidates. For guys like Pekovic and Asik, you can probably get a pick and a prospect for taking that contract off their hands. You may have to give a pick for guys like Carmelo and Ibaka, but it would still help hit the salary floor and maybe you hit a jackpot with a guy in a new environment who knows? Guys who I think are the perfect value for the 3rd pick: Ariza, Teague, Matthews, maybe Ibaka, and maybe maybe Gortat. Those guys I'd like to have the for #3 pick and I think that's a fairly good trade for both sides.
good posts, fab four. if conley seems set to bolt in Memphis, they could move marc gasol. the 3rd overall pick seems about right given his recent injury struggles.
I kind of agree with all of this. Except I'd rather just roll the dice and take Brown and hope he ends up better than Ariza. Gortat is too old too. And you're right, some of the guys on that list are actually players we would get a pick for just taking them off their roster. In addition to Pekovic and Asik, Chandler, Melo... we'd demand a pick to take on their salaries like the Lin deal. I think what this list proves is if the pick drops to #3, unless a team falls in love with someone not named Simmons or Ingram, we will have a hard time moving the pick for anything that would prove more valuable than a flier on Jaylen or Buddy or Bender. Like I said, take Brown and hope he ends up as a big physical sf to lockdown the other team's best wing player. Stanley Johnson proved pretty valuable for the Pistons this season. I think that's a reasonable comparison.
#3 overall for ariza...ewwww. he's worth a mid-first, maybe. you can find guys like him; every team that he left has learned that, imo. more importantly, the expected value of a top-3 pick is definitely higher than ariza on average. I'm generally down on draft picks relative to others, simply for the reason that they rarely perform up to best case scenarios. but I think one would expect a solid nba starter at that position. I'm not positive ariza qualifies, and he's a lower leg injury away from his career being over, james posey style. I'd definitely take ariza in a salary dump or in exchange for a later pick, though. okc traded harden for the 12th pick, the 11th pick, and kevin martin. I think the #3 is worth something...not a star, but something that's hard to obtain via FA.
I would love Hayward or Gobert from Utah for the #3. Gobert is like Whiteside without being a headcase, and a lower tier of shot blocking ability.
All things are relative. I don't see anyone in this draft past the first two slots that is likely to be as helpful to our team as Trevor is. Besides we'd likely be able to ask for a little more than just Trevor for the #3 pick. If Brown doesn't impress me in workouts, I make that trade.
I mean a lot of these ideas are kind of 2-3 steps ahead where teams have to make bold decisions and I can't wrap my head around making those decisions, you know? If Brooklyn or Phoenix or whomever decide to go full tank mode, then all bets are off but as of right now if we called with offers they'd probably politely decline. My only thing with guys like Embiid and Kidd-Gilchrist is they're proven to be injury prone at this point. Obviously Embiid has never played and Kidd-Gilchrist has never played a full season. In fact the last three years he's missed 20, 27, and 75 games. I'd rather take a chance on Jaylen Brown that move the pick for MKG even though I like MKG and hope for the best with him.
0% chance we get Gobert. Utah loves him. As you said, he is Whiteside without so much baggage...and he's 4 years younger. I'd trade Clarkson AND the #3 for Gobert. I'd consider Clarkson and the #2 even. Gobert + Russell + Randle. Have fun with that in 3-4 years. Gobert is one of those guys that flies uner the radar because he's in Utah. But he is a total game changer.
Losing the coach is very interesting to me in Memphis. Does Conley have any interest in entertaining offers? That kid is still young, but a stud. I think Memphis' window has closed, and they need to consider blowing things up. I don't see them ever getting over the hump in the West.
Memphis's problem is that they're past the point of selling high on their assets. I don't think they can strip it down now. could have last year. gasol and conley each could have fetched more in trade then, imo. but were conley to walk, I don't see why they hang onto anyone anyway.
Utah isn't going to give up anyone. They get Dante Exum back next year and they're gunning for a playoff spot.
One more week to go, can we hit a 3rd "jackpot" in a row? Kobe went out on a HIGH note b0ron got replaced by Luke It's now time to secure that top2 pick. Work your magic Mitch!
Yes. Before his injury, Dante was looking like he'd turned a corner in his game. It was a pretty big blow to them.
Didn't know that. I followed him earlier in the season and I wasn't really impressed... perhaps due to his pre-draft comparisons to young Penny and Kobe lol Anyway hoping he makes it back strong.
He was drafted very, very young and while he's still got that kind of athletic potential and that kind of game, he may never hit his potential. Starting the year he looked like he was showing growth. It was definitely a bummer when he went down. I wish that kid the best. I know Utah would certainly like for him to be their future star PG. They like him a heck of a lot more than Burks.
