2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

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    Wes was a Laker? I don't remember. If he ever was, that information is not in my brain anymore. And I am not going to Google it either. :Magic2:
     
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  2. The Showtime Mamba

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    If it leaves Deng then I feel like we have no traction or progress.

    I would not do this trade at all. I see that it moves figures and contracts around for next year, at the peril of disregarding the on-court performance and chemistry of the team.

    Slotting in a disgruntled Jordan who has been declining on-court this season, an inactive Beverly and Wesley the non-magic Johnson so you have somebody to denegrate on gameday is not the answer.

    I understand the impermanent nature of Lopez on this team, but value his effort and the dimension his three point shooting can add to this team. To inviscirate (partially) the team of scoring by also taking out Clarkson does us no favors.

    If we want to look good for perspective freeagents, I think we have to only change the team for a strong move. I cannot see how this would not damage the team and lose momentum to a team that has made progress defensively and in terms of fluidity of play.

    I would argue that Jordan with a lack of shooting, offers more minuses than positves. Lopez is what he is, less athletic and not at that all star level, but to use a basketball gametime analogy, I think an unecessary substitution when the team is making progress would be unconstructive and detrimental to our progress.
     
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    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

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    The thought of Jordan on this team makes me ill, as does Beverly even if he’d be in street clothes. I’m gonna pretend Wes Johnson wasn’t even mentioned. I see what you’re going for with it, but damn we would take a hit in the win column. We’d have the most clogged paint ever, and one of the worst shooting starting lineups of all times.
     
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    I'll roll with Real's deal, I think I've suggested something like that before. I would even remove protections on the pick if it will sweeten the deal.

    No to Doc's trade though. That, at best, is a lateral move.
     
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    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

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    Do it Palinka.
     
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    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

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    His contract is pretty substantial and would cut into the summer budget significantly.

    He's the kind of guy I get after I already hit a home run in FA.
     
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    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

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    2017/18: $22,642,350
    2018/19: $24,119,025
    2019/20: $25,595,700 (player option)

    Don't do it Palinka! At least not yet.
     
  8. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

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    Wallace did it instead haha
     
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    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

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    He sat Gasol so he gets fired? That's about as reactionary as it gets.

    Unless Fizdale was doing some really bad stuff behind the scenes, this is a baffling move.
     
  11. Cookie

    Cookie The Dame of Doom Staff Member

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    Didn’t Marc say he wouldn’t play for the Lakers after the way we treated his brother?
     
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    karacha Moderator Staff Member

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    They fired a good coach for... What exactly?
     
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    yep, so Marc can eat a fat one....Pau wasnt treated great but he also didnt earn his $ last 2yrs here, his drama cost us a possible 3pt n it not like mgmt didnt do their part helping Pau get his 2 rings, something Pau hasnt even come close again even with the Spurs
     
  14. D-Fish Man

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    That's pretty harsh. Sure, Pau kinda cratered towards the end there, and it may have cost us a three-peat, but the man brought us two championships, including one against the C-Bags. Meanwhile, our front office treated him like absolute TRASH. Just another notch in the garbage belt that was Jim Buss' reign over the team. Who can blame the Gasol's for feeling that way.
     
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    like i said, works both ways, pau didnt earn his $ n what was so bad with pau treatment? it was only 1 failed trade attempt n rumors, you cant control rumors, Pau could control his production but he didn't
     
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    He did. But He can't control if a team trades for him.

    Also this front office would just blame all that on Mitch.
     
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    Sounds like Marc got him fired lol. Maybe he was so pissed he said well if I'm the problem...i want to be traded. Its me or him.
     
  18. D-Fish Man

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    There was more to it than that. In addition to the botched CP3 trade (which admittedly wasn't even Jim's/Mitch's fault), they left him twisting in the wind season after season as the trade deadlines approached.

    They also let Pringles treat him like garbage. You'll recall that Pringles, who had never even coached a team to the finals and was lucky to get the Laker gig in the first place (an other great moment in Jim/Mitch history...) basically said that if Pau wanted to get the minutes he was seeking, he had to prove himself. This was after Pau took us to three straight finals and two championships. Way to go Pringles.

    Then finally, after signing Kobe to the $50 million sweetheart deal, and when it was clear we couldn't contend for the next two years anyway, they low-balled him during contract negotiations. The cherry-on-top of the Jim/Mitch sundae (at least up to that point and before the MozDeng debacle) was when they let Pau walk for nothing, after making the same mistake with Coward.

    Some of these mistakes are justifiable, but overall, Pau was right to feel like the Lakers FO treated him like crap towards the end there, or at least in a manner that was not commensurate with the success he helped bring us. If you play a key role in winning two rings, including a game 7 win over the green turds, you should never feel like a persona non grata in Lakerland.
     
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    I thought Jim/Mitch offered Pau a 2 year max deal (or close to that) but he thankfully decided to go to a bette team. No?
     
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    Not quite. The Lakers offered him two years, $22 mil. He ended up going to the Bulls for less money per year (3 years, $22 mil). Pau didn't get what he was asking for, from the Lakers, felt insulted, and decided to go play for a team that needed him more.
     
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