Russell Westbrick Discussion: Clipper Gonna Clip

Discussion in 'NBA Discussion' started by LaVarBallsDad, Jul 29, 2021.

  1. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,853
    Likes Received:
    13,579
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    no thank you
     
    Pioneer10 and Juronimo like this.
  2. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,853
    Likes Received:
    13,579
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    that equate to dumb to me, you cant shoot well from 3s but take the worse 3pt attempts, theres a difference between stubborn and dumb, stubborn means you practice at it and you want to do better thats why you keep at it as oppose to knowing youre not good at it, dont actually work to improve but continue to do it anyways
     
    Pioneer10 likes this.
  3. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    7,088
    Likes Received:
    6,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    If 3 point shooting was all there was to NBA basketball, then the last three NBA Champions wouldn't be NBA Champions. The obsession over 3 point shooting is both ridiculous and not supported by winning hardware. Portland and Utah were both great 3 point shooting teams last season. Where did they finish? Out of the playoffs along with the Lakers and all our better than league average 3 point shooters.
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  4. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    7,088
    Likes Received:
    6,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    The Spurs won a Championship with Avery Johnson as their starting point guard. Little dude couldn't buy a jumper and shot .111 from the 3 point line.
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  5. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    25,703
    Likes Received:
    69,918
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i'm no fan of bombing threes as a philosophy, but i think you're arguing disingenuously. 3p% correlated .78 with winning percentage last year.

    here, i made this real fast so that you can see who's who:

    3p.jpeg
     
    KB24, LTLakerFan, Panko and 3 others like this.
  6. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    7,088
    Likes Received:
    6,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    I'm talking about the Finals. For us it's Championship or bust period.
     
  7. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    25,703
    Likes Received:
    69,918
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i don't know. i watch the rest of the season, too. and the teams in the lower left quadrant aren't playing in the finals anyway.

    seriously, draw a line with a slope of -1 across the middle of this figure, and you have your playoff vs. lotto teams. it's stark.
     
    tada, ElginTheGreat, Panko and 3 others like this.
  8. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,688
    Likes Received:
    22,248
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    Look, I get the frustration with Westbrook's shot selection. It frustrates me too. But, I'm telling you he is not a dumb player. He was one of Kobe's favorite players in the league. Kobe never liked Smush, who literally was stupid. He loved Russ. LeBron also gravitates to smart players and he wanted Russ on this team.
     
  9. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    25,703
    Likes Received:
    69,918
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    is it being dumb if you technically know not to do something but simply don't care enough not to do it?

    is irrational confidence "dumb"?
     
  10. fabfourlakers

    fabfourlakers - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Messages:
    3,330
    Likes Received:
    7,618
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Those pull up 2's early in shot clock are absolutely killing us. Cannot have him do this

    WIth that said - if Bron sits tonight, I"m looking for Westbrook to have a huge night and show everyone why we brought him in.
     
  11. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,688
    Likes Received:
    22,248
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    Was Kobe dumb?
     
    lakerjones and LTLakerFan like this.
  12. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,373
    Likes Received:
    27,247
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Definitely not. Although he did take some dumb shots too, it's just who those players are. You can control that to a degree, but if you have a tendency to do it, you'll always be at least tempted to pull up early, or to chuck a shot over 4 defenders.
     
  13. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    25,703
    Likes Received:
    69,918
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    that's what i was getting at. we need to define terms. i don't think westbrook's dumb (i.e., doesn't understand how things do or should work), but i agree that not all of his decisions are governed by basketball rationality.
     
  14. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,688
    Likes Received:
    22,248
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    Defining terms is helpful. Dumb = lacking intelligence. That's not Westbrook.

    Now, if you want to say he is cocky, overly confident, or stubbornly confident, even irrationally confident, then I can agree.
     
  15. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    4,279
    Likes Received:
    7,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I get it but during our two losses, our defense was atrocious and IMO , the main the reason why we lost.
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  16. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,373
    Likes Received:
    27,247
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    33/10/8, played with 5 fouls. Sealed the game. Props.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Bryant

    Bryant - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    May 20, 2015
    Messages:
    1,655
    Likes Received:
    5,127
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    First time we've really seen him get to the bucket and score at will. Hope it continues.
     
  18. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    7,088
    Likes Received:
    6,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    Give Russ some time to get into his comfort zone. It's going to be a show.
     
  19. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Great game.

    He only had 3 turnovers.

    Frustrated me more than a couple times, but we won!

    That's all that matters.

    And more importantly, he is finding his footing.
     
  20. Juronimo

    Juronimo - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,359
    Likes Received:
    6,510
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    plays with one's and zero's
    Location:
    the sky's the limit
    Offline
    I have to give credit where credit is due, Russ had a good game tonight.
     
    JSM, Barnstable, IE Lakers and 5 others like this.

Share This Page