Head Coach Frank Vogel Discussion: The Fall Guy

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  1. lakerjones

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    In what way? Rondo had the most ridiculous hot hand he's had all year.
     
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    Playing Caruso more; I mean, would he get 3-4 mins more?

    You know when Caruso is when one of the most sought out players at the deadline; you'd think other teams see something, right? And he continues to be under utilized, IMO.

    With the exception for last night; I guess since Rondo had the hit hand. I get that.

    However, how about the other games when Rondo is trash, which is happens way more often.
     
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    I'm with you about playing Caruso more, especially when Rondo is sucking. I also would like to see more Cook out there on a regular basis. But last night I have no problem with him riding the hot hand with Rondo as he was clearly the most on fire I may have ever seen him - 23 points in 27 minutes on 9 of 13 shooting.

    No minutes for the Carus show because Rondo is lighting everyone up? That's a good problem to have in this case.
     
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    Last night was the exception. What's the excuse otherwise or in other games?

    There is none.
     
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    I don't disagree. But I'm still glad to see Rondo have a great game. Hopefully he's got some more of these in him. Maybe not this red hot of course, but great games in general.
     
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    Rondo's PT isn't delayed when others are playing so well , this is why Vogel is full of s***

    At this point I have accepted the inevitable , we'll get what we deserve in the playoffs for playing A.D friend over better players ... or we'll get a lucky break with a Rondo injury.
     
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    Yup. Frustrating as ****. I don't agree it means Vogel is full of s*** though. Politics and all. What he wants to do may not be allowed due to whichever forces influence this.
     
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    Some funny sound bytes from Frank during the All Star game

     
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    Vogel is full of **** with respect to Rajon.

    If he was using analytics, (which he's claimed) then he wouldn't be playing him.
     
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    I wish he would've ran Kawhi a full 48. Load manage that, j******.
     
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    In a vacuum but we don’t know about the behind the scenes and locker room political stuff. I think he’ll be smart in the playoffs with a shorter leash when needed. Hope anyway.
     
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    John Ireland, "Vogel trust him...".

    Let's hope...lol
     
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    Good read on the coaching staff

     
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    Yes really enjoyed that. Vogel seems like a good guy to play for and coach with. Plus we learned why donut boy Penberthy is FAT.

    :clap:
     
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    I mean, we knew why he was fat. Calories In > Calories Out. That article just taught us the delivery system.
     
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    He really doesn't want to play his best 5 man lineups for some reason. Can't tell if he's trying to keep things close to the vest to prevent teams from getting film or just trying to keep the chemistry going by distributing minutes more evenly then he should

    Last night's game was a prime example: the AD/Lebron/Bradley/AC/Green lineup put up one of the best defensive stretches of the season and then didn't play at all in the second half till about 2 minutes left to go in the game. Instead he chose to play Javale in the 4th which should never happen and of course there is whole Rondo equation
     
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    Sounds like we'll get more of this pairing during this back half of the season.
     
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    Vogel has always been just average with rotations. I remember with Indiana, he would just stick with his lineups and make very few alterations. I can't complain since we are winning but that run by Memphis was getting scary. I felt Caruso should have been getting minutes in the 3rd Q to help stop the bleeding. Another issue is the fact Caruso is getting fewer minutes than last season. Maybe Caruso is best at short bursts but I would like to see him get around 25-28 minutes when he plays well. The tricky part is Avery Bradley has deserved every minute he has gotten the past few months and Rondo is getting the veteran treatment. Cook+Daniels likely will never see any real playing time anymore.

    Morris
    Javale
    Dwight
    LeBron
    AD
    Kuzma
    Caruso
    Bradley
    Rondo
    KCP
    Green

    I believe we can win with this roster.
     
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    Need better plays in the 4th. Straight up AD post ups or Lebron dribbling the ball 20 times down to the post isn't going to work in the playoffs. He needs to get creative.
     
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    Key adjustment
     

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