Preseason 2017

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  1. Doc Brown

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    Luke has been lost with rotations since he got here. Not surprised he can't figure it out now. He's pretty poor at realizing what works and doesn't.

    JC --> Can't be the ball handler. He can't play with Ennis or along side KCP in the backcourt. Needs to play with Caruso, Ball, Randle at all times to keep him in line from dominating the ball.

    Randle --> Needs to play with floor spacers (Lopez/Kuzma/Deng) not Nance, Zubac

    Ingram --> Cannot play with Ennis/Clarkson. See reasoning for JC. Same applies to him, all ISO no ball movement.

    Nance --> Cannot play the small ball 5, his only position is 4. Needs to play with a facilitator or he shouldn't bother crossing half court on offense.

    Ennis --> Cannot run the second unit as he cannot run the offense, dribbling the ball upcourt and passing to Ingram/Clarkson to ISO doesn't count.

    Ball/Kuzma/Randle --> 2 of these guys need to be on the court at all times to facilitate the offense.....Would only need 1 if we kept Caruso but Ennis is so much better, our team would lose like 20 extra games if we didn't have him (Rolls eyes)

    This is simple stuff, won't show up in the win column as this doesn't drastically make us a playoff contender, but it helps us from looking like complete dog crap and embarrassing ourselves on the court.
     
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    So we are back to Byron with rotation madness... Great.
     
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    Been thoroughly disappointed in Luke for looking very unprepared this entire training camp.

    Hopefully he can turn it around though once our team is healthy and we get some consistency finally in terms of rotations.
     
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    Training camp super short, Lopez and Bogut and Hart out for first several practice games starting early. Luke says in interviews that it is about trying combinations at the moment seeing who does well with whom. Sure he's young and made mistakes last year with things a young coach would compared to Pop or a Carlisle but some of this criticism now seems really misplaced and not representative of what they're trying to do at the moment. Haven't yet had all their key players together to run lineups with .... Ball and Bogut still out.... etc.
     
  5. ElginTheGreat

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    I think people are just concerned when they hear he will still be tinkering with line-ups.
     
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    Im willing to bet Luke will still continue to tinker the lineup during the season
     
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    I think if we had clear-cut starter quality players, it wouldn't be an issue. We have a bunch of middle level undeveloped talent with duplicate positions and strength in their games. In my opinion he should be experimenting a little bit to see what combinations work best.
     
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    That's one of the nice things though with our roster is that we have a lot of depth with that decent to very good talent level and that will allow the team to adapt in games and ride hot combinations. It asks a lot of a coach with like sirron says no real stars but a lot of upper level as opposed to star talent.
     
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    Agreed 100%

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    Luke luster has worn off with me, i generally think he is coaching this team like its talented like gsw and not adjusting to his current talent lvl. Hes a nice guy unlike boron, but same lvl of inadequacy to me
     
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    Has not had one minute with his projected starting lineup including major components of it together at the same time OUT for most of the games as well as other injuries of semi key guys. So he keeps experimenting. They have decisions of which last players to cut and to give the last 2 way contract to. Understandable this is not an even adequately tuned machine yet.
     
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    Thank goodness. it's good for the players to get used to playing with the B team, so that when the A team best players are ready, the game will come even easier to them.

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    hard to have consistent rotations when you have all but 3 players on your team who have no clue what they are doing at any given time.
     
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    Doc Rivers ... "They still have not beaten our starting five,"
     
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    Deng...barf.

    It should be Zo, Kuz, Ingram, Nance, Lopez.
     
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    How do we expect to win when you play Dung... I'm not really excited
     
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    Luke enters Boron territory for me if he plays Deng/Ingram/Nance in the starting unit. His reasoning is likely he wants to keep the bench unit together, my response to that is do better. The only bench parts that NEED to play with each other are Caruso/Kuzma/Randle. Caruso isn't going to get the nod over Ennis because Ennis is the coach's pet. And if you can't figure out how to put out a better starting unit AND play Kuzma/Randle together, well then you shouldn't be coaching.
     
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