Paul George Discussion

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  1. KareemtheGreat33

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    a team with Melo never won anything, a team with older over the hill Melo?
     
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    Utah is good. People have been underselling them for a few years, mostly due to health.

    Gobert is one of the most impactful players in the league and probably this year’s DPOY. I think he is probably on the level of Ben Wallace and peak Dwight as a defensive presence.

    Ingles is one of the best glue guys in the league, an excellent defender, playmaker and one of the best shooters in the league.

    Donovan Mitchell should of been ROY any other year and looks like a hell of a prospect.

    Favors is a fringe all star. We all know what he brings.

    Rubio is starting to shoot better, stay injury free and make good on his incredible potential as a defender, playmaker and scorer.

    They’re a heck of a team that has one of the better coaches in the league and hangs its head on the defence. If Hayward had stuck around they’d be a top 3 team. If they stick together they’ll develop into one of the better teams in the West. I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion that our youth is better or we’d be better with the addition of PG only.
     
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    Their outfits are fugly tho...
     
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    And yet we push for PG. I can't say I turn down a PG deal this summer but the guy is teamed up with Westbrook and their success has been...we'll see. It's not super promising so far but as long as we give up nothing but cap...yes.
     
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    i think george would look better in a ball movement offense as opposed to...whatever it is donovan's been doing there.
     
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    My problem is George misses a ton of open shots - the same quality of open shots he’ll get here with a better offence.

    Then he spends another 14-16 mins a game as the primary creator with the reserves and he hasn’t been creating well for himself and even worse for others.
     
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    If only we had that cap space ready and waiting.

    Oh wait .....

    :Magicand Rob Dapp:

    :Lukemindblown:
     
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    Yeah not the way they're put together and I'm a warm earthy colors guy.

    :SadPau2:
     
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    is there data on that first claim? if so, it would indeed concern me. but i also think there's something to being a secondary player when you might be better suited as a focal point in an offense. and vice versa.
     
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    This regular season :

    open 2 ( defender is 4-6 feet away) : 84/201 : 41% ... was 120/243 , 49.3% in 16-17
    open 3 101/262 : 38.5% ... 40.3% on 221 attempts in 16-17

    wide open 2 ( +6 feet) : 32/67 : 47.8% ... 56.9% in 16-17 on 51 attempts
    wide open 3 : 117/246 :47.6% ... was "only" 42.2% in 16-17 on 173 attempts

    Overall he has been bad from midrange and paint non restriced area this season ( 33.2 and 36.8% on 304 and 133 attempts).

    In 16-17 , he was on fire from midrange 46.7% on 504 attempts
     
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    wide open 3's:

    Ingles: 42.8% of his 3's are wide open and he hits 47.5% of them.

    PG: 19.5% are open at 47.6% accuracy.

    Btw
    Steph 47.1%
    Klay 51%
    KD 57%
    Ingram 41%
    Lonzo 32%
     
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    More like Push off P?

    :Laugh:
     
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    yea pg not that good and lebron is old and a d, go ahead and sign kd and giannis instead :Crazyartest:
     
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    looks like he needs more open looks. he hits them at the same rate as curry. and he can defend two positions very well. if he could do nothing else, he still might be our best player for the next 4 years.
     
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    With as many wide open 3s Luke's offense generates, we need our main shooters to all be in the 40%+ range on wide open 3s. Here's our #s this season
    https://stats.nba.com/players/shots... - Wide Open&PerMode=Totals&TeamID=1610612747
     
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    I think if he decides to come here, he'd mesh well with Luke's offensive game plan he helped develop while at Golden State. PG and Kyle would make for a nice 1 two punch imo. He can shoot the three ball, he'll do well under Luke's system, more so than what I see with OKC.
     
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    Make that AD instead of Durant and im down ;)
     
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    It’s really a tale of two halves this season, before all star break he was very efficient shooting wise. Post all star break he has been very average shooting wise. I can dig up the numbers, but George is that kind of hot and cold player.

    EDIT: George shot 44.8% overall FG, 43.2% from 3 and 64.3% at the rim pre all-star. Post All-star he shot 38.5% overall GF, 32.4% from 3 and 54.5% at the rim.

    Pre All-Star:

    Defender 4-6 Feet - Open - Frequency of shots: 36.5% / FG% 40.7% / 3FG% 39.5%
    Defender 6+ Feet - Wide Open - Frequency of shots: 25.5% / FG% 51.1% / 3FG% 51.1%

    So 61% of his shots were open or wide open and he shot extremely well pre all-star break.

    Post All-Star:

    Defender 4-6 Feet - Open - Frequency of shots: 38% / FG% 37.7% / 3FG% 36.5%
    Defender 6+ Feet - Wide Open - Frequency of shots: 23.1% / FG% 38.1% / / 3FG% 36.2%

    Post All-Star, 61% of his shots were still were open or wide open and he shot 38% or less and his 3 numbers cratered too.

    His around the rim follows a similar trend. The stats don't really paint why, he shot the same amount of open shots, the same breakdown of shots on the floor, from the same areas, at the same time on the shot clock with the same amount of dribbles.

    He just started missing a bunch of open shots.
     
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