Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by LaVarBallsDad, Nov 16, 2015.

  1. ElginTheGreat

    ElginTheGreat - Lakers MVP -

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    Barnes would be awesome to be honest. But as everyone is saying, it will be tough to get him.
     
  2. TheGreatOneKobe

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    I respectfully disagree.

    You're right about one thing though, we're going to overpay for a couple of average players.
     
  3. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

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    That's not what I said. I'd say we'd overpay for players.

    If you consider Batum, Derozan, or Barnes an average player, then sure I guess we will. So will everyone else who misses out on Durant, LeBron, and to a lesser extent Mike Conley.

    There's money to be spent and it will be spent lavishly regardless of talent. That's what happens when the market inflates. Either way it doesn't matter. Do you know the actual numbers behind keeping our pick?

    If we finish 2nd to last, which is a distinct possibility, we'd have a 44.2% chance of losing the pick.
    If we finished DEAD LAST in the NBA worse even than Philadelphia, we'd have a 35.7% chance of losing the pick.
    If we finish anywhere after 2nd to last, we'd have a LESS THAN 50% chance of keeping the pick.
    If we finish anywhere outside of the bottom 5, we'd have at most a 21.5% chance of keeping the pick.

    The odds are stacked incredibly AGAINST us keeping the pick. I'd suggest not getting your hopes up.
     
  4. alam1108

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    The NBA Gods will gift us the #1 pick in hopes we finally turn the franchise around and make the league even more money. They tried to with #7 then #2 and we still aren't better, next logical step is #1!!

    (I haven't had much sleep....)
     
  5. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

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    One guy who I like, although restricted is Donatas Motiejunas from Houston; 7 footer, can spread the floor, has a decent post game and gives you some size and length defensively. Good fit next to Randle, IMO.
     
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  6. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

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    Instead of Roy? I like Roy as our Center. I think he and Randle can fit just fine if they're put in the right situations to be successful...

    Backup Centers worth looking into:

    Joakim Noah (injuries are a concern though)
    Nene Hilario (same thing)
    Ian Mahinmi
    Timofey Mozgov
    Zaza Pachulia

    I know half those guys are still starters, but they're really not that great. For the record Hassan Whiteside is unrestricted, but good luck getting him here.
     
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  7. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

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    No, as a backup to Roy. I want Hibbert back.
     
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    DeRozan is a hometown kid.
     
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    Barnes is not a franchise guy. It would be a huge mistake to pay him that type of money. Really good player though.
     
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    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

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    It's time to start paying for players, even non franchise guys. If we don't start signing talent, we will turn into the 76ers. The cap is going way up next season, and even decent guys are gonna get PAID, we saw it this offseason already. Get some talent in here, and then worst case scenario they don't work out at least we have trade assets. We can't sit around every offseason hoping to land the one star available, whether it's Durant this year or Westbrook next. We traded for a 2nd tier guy in Roy, but essentially signed him by taking his contract for picks, and he's turned out to be one of our best players.
     
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  11. ElginTheGreat

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    I'm just praying we are working on improving our pitch to guys. I think players will be interested in coming here. Maybe not Durant, but someone will look at this team and see potential.
     
  12. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't think anyone of any real quality will be interested in coming here under Boron though. That's why he's got to go ASAP.
     
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  13. ElginTheGreat

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    Yeah. Getting a new coach in place has to be step 1.
     
  14. KareemtheGreat33

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    I feel like Barnes could have a Harden like impact if he gets showcased more. We(CL folks) raved about him before and wanted him when GS was interested in Coward.
     
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    Barnes has little room to grow on this Warriors team though ... How long is he going to be fine with his reduced role ? Will a big paycheck enough ?

    At worst GS will sign and trade him ... but I doubt we have attractive assets for the Warriors
     
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    A Jimmy Butler like impact imo
     
  17. therealdeal

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    Or we just sign him to a huge offer sheet this summer and force GS to match.
     
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    If he wants to sign it :)

    He's going to OKC in exchange of KD :Kaream Surprise:
     
  19. KareemtheGreat33

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    We pay him MAX plus a Wolves like under the table deal.
     
  20. therealdeal

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    Wouldn't you sign it? The Warriors aren't going to volunteer that money. Sure you go to a worse team, but your life changes forever with that kind of cash AND it's a legacy franchise AND you can build it in your own way.

    OKC isn't trading Durant because they can't get value back for him at this point. He's either staying or leaving this summer, probably staying.
     

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