Lonzo Ball Discussion: Worthy Said What Now?

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  1. sirronstuff

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    Weezy's favorite kind of obscure stat ....

    :Laugh:
     
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    I think there was another stat like he was the youngest to 10+ Assists 10+ Rebounds and 5+Steals.
     
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    Me? I think you’re thinking of OX.
     
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    No was someone other than OX though he would agree, me too at a certain perceived point of obscure statistics overload. Thought it was you.

    :SmushFail2:
     
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    I have laughed at those stats in the past, possibly even mocked them like “first player to record a triple double on a Tuesday in January when mercury is in retrograde and there is an even 50/50 men and women split in the stands and no children under age 3”, but I can’t recall a specific situation.
     
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    That's it yeah it was you! Exact words and not long ago at all ....

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    The answer is George Lynch.
     
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    The correct answer would be Zen
     
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    LOL .... yes that might work too under his broad brush of being pissed off at everything .....

    :Fishwink:

    But it was Weezy I was remembering not a fan of random pulled from some writer's butt obscure statistics.
     
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    I’m not “not a fan”, they just make me laugh with how obscure they are. :D Stats can be interesting and fun, but sometimes they go too far and it’s like “uh, what?”. This Lonzo stat I actually like though, 5, 10, 10, 5 is cool because it shows a really nice all-around game, offense AND defense.
     
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    LT, you gonna end up on my list...
     
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    First Bron, now Zen?

    :ShaqOh2:

    Stay off da lists LT
     
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    This was fun to watch and read. That pass to KCP to start the break, oh my!!!

    Lonzo in Slo-Mo: A Slowed-Down Look at Ball's Playmaking

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    by Joey Ramirez
    Digital Reporter
    Posted: Jan 10, 2018
    Sometimes passers can’t be fully appreciated at full speed. Especially in transition, it can be difficult to appreciate the subtle moves made to get teammates open looks.

    Lonzo Ball had several of those moments during his five-point, 11-rebound, 11-assist, five-steal performance in Tuesday’s win over the Sacramento Kings.

    While the rookie shot just 2-of-8 from the field, he was clearly the Lakers’ most dangerous offensive weapon because of his ability to make plays for others.

    Here, we slow down a few of Ball’s best plays to half-speed, in order to take a closer look at the nuances of his performance.

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    The Lakers’ first play of the game was a testament to coach Luke Walton’s play construction, as the team began with an elevator screen that led straight to an open Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 3-pointer.

    But Ball is the one who keeps the defense honest by taking a jab step toward the right before delivering to KCP just as he runs through Julius Randle and Brook Lopez’s double screen (closing the elevator doors).

    This play relies on crisp timing, so Ball’s ability to sell the fake and get it back on time in crucial here.

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    Ball goes back to Caldwell-Pope on this next play, but instead of a scripted half-court play, it’s a savvy dish in transition.

    The 20-year-old is already one of the best fast-break distributors in the game, and this one shows why.

    Ball picks up the steal and has a chance to immediately pass to KCP to push the break. But he knows that players move faster without the ball, so he gives an extra dribble in order for his target to hit his stride.

    The bit of hesitation pays off, as he gets KCP in a full sprint, and the vet puts a nice finish on the layup.

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    This one is such a simple pass that it can be difficult to appreciate what Ball does to make the play happen.

    First, he pushes the ball in transition (note the shot clock), taking advantage of an unset Sacramento defense.

    The Kings clearly aren’t ready to defend the pick-and-roll, as seen as Zach Randolph stumbles back into the paint while De’Aaron Fox jumps at the first inkling of Ball potentially shooting a 3.

    This split-second shot fake is all Ball needs to flip it to Lopez for a wide-open triple. A clean look like that can go a long way into getting a guy in rhythm, as seen by Brook’s 18 points and five treys against the Kings.

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    This one is the trademark Lonzo Ball play: a full-court outlet pass.

    Third among point guards in rebounds (7.1 per game), Ball gets good positioning on Vince Carter and easily snags the board.

    The key part of the way Ball works the glass is how he turns his head around mid-air and scans the court ahead.

    He locates a streaking Julius Randle and fires a perfect bullet pass the second he hits the floor, leading to the layup.

    This last one should first be enjoyed at full speed, as Ball beats two Kings for an offensive rebound before settling the offense down and starting up a pick-and-roll.

    But as Lonzo goes around the screen, notice how he turns his head to the wing, where he notices that Brandon Ingram has a clear path cutting to the rim.

    In order to ensure success (and put a little flash on it), Ball rises up for a decoy mid-range jumper. But the entire time he is just trying to trick the defense, and does just that.

    As he rises up for his “shot,” he floats a perfect lob to Ingram for the jam.

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    He is pretty special. The national media is sort of exposing themselves as frauds (granted for any clear thinking adult, that was already established) because when they critique him, it is painfully obvious they are merely looking at the box scores. They see a 2-9 shooting and 7 assists and they think he had a bad night. But if you watch the game you realize he is controlling the flow, the feel and attitude of the team in a very positive way.
     
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    The full court pass to Randle is my favorite of the above gifs. I don’t even know how he sees that when his head only really starts turning right as his feet are hitting the floor. It’s a split second that he sees Randle and makes the perfect pass, it’s all one motion, and it’s amazing.
     
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    Imagine all the media talk if Lebron picks Zo for his all star team?
     
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    he has to be voted in 1st before james can pick him
     

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