Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by therealdeal, Jun 8, 2017.
I hate Smart. I don't like Morris. Baynes is a goon. Kyrie is an idiot who thinks he's a genius. Monroe's nickname of Moose is appropriate to his intelligence levels.
I'm starting to dislike Tatum because of the way the media fawns over him.
F*** the C Bags. I look forward to the Warriors crushing them mercilessly.
After doing same to Houston. That would be perfect.
Echos my current sentiment toward the C Bags perfectly.
The arrogance part is subjective and you can argue that any superstar player (including your favorites) are arrogant. Imho, the hate for Bron solely based off this reasoning is mind boggling...But haters, go ahead and do you.
However TIME, you're absolutely right about everything else that you posted and that is what makes me hate the cbags so much more. They have literally colored me green with envy.
They have a great team dynamic... They got a good amount of dogs on that team... Their defense is next level s***. Stevens is a great coach with a system that you can plug and play with. You look at what Luke had to deal with in terms of roster overhaul...Well, Stevens had to deal with 11 out of their 15 man roster being newbies to his system (Horford, Brown, Rozier, Smart are the only holdovers to that 16/17 team). Out of their core playoff rotation, only Horford and Smart are the consistent parts to it, since Rozier stepped in for Ky and Brown/Tatum stepped in for Hayward.
I hate them so much cause I want our young team to emulate them...and boy does that make me feel dirty AF. And the fact that once Bron heads westward, the lEast is for Boston's taking, so they're already ahead of us in terms of title contention all while holding the franchise total titles lead against us as well. Now consider they have all those picks/assets (2019 most favorable between Sac or Philly 1st rounder 2-30 unprotected, 2019 Memphis 1st rounder 9-30 unprotected, 2019 Clips 1st rounder 15-30 unprotected) to trade to only get better.
Meanwhile, we're discussing our degree of hate for them as they're 2 wins away from a Finals bid, while we sit our a**** at home and are forced to watch.
I need a shower...
I’m with @TIME here. As I said I want them to fail as an organization because I hate their fans and I hate their legends, but these guys are just not like that for me and in the end we know we are the better organization anyway. I mean if it wasn’t for Bill Russell and those guys, this wouldn’t even be a discussion.
Yep. Everyone that's rooting for the C Bags needs to turn in their Laker fandom right now. I cannot and WILL NOT ever root for this bastards.
LeBron beating them won't make him stay with Cleveland either...I think he's gone either way.
Sure you can ... like this ...
I hate Lebronmania more than I hate the C Bags.
I’m not in the majority here and I’m good with that. Would I want those jokers to win before us? HECK NO!!!, but do I want Lebrontio and his antics in the purple and gold? That would also be a resounding HECK NO!!! We all agree on the hate we have for that green trash, but just like you and others can’t see how Laker fans can hate Lebronmania more than the Cbags, I can’t see how Laker fans can actually want that trash in LA and ALL of what comes with it.
Lebrono is like a girl that is extremely attractive, but she has MAJOR baggage that once uncovered will ruin your life and you’ll end up in a mental institution.
as long as you can "hit it" a few times, it'll be worth it lol
Come on man! No! ... that was funny though.
Am I ok if I’m rooting for both teams to lose? Like for some giant cheating or PED scandal to come out and both teams are disqualified and the WFC is for the championship? I literally can’t bring myself to watch these games, I watched game 1 until halftime, found myself enjoying a LeBron team being beat down by even the C Bags, and turned it off in disgust. I didn’t watch a second of game 2 either, can’t do it. I don’t want LeBron to win, and I don’t want the C Bags to win, it’s lose-lose.
All that said I should probably clarify my LeBron to the Lakers stance again. I’m fine with it as long as it doesn’t mean we trade away Ingram, Zo, Kuz, Hart, and let Randle walk if we can match a reasonable price in order to bring in whoever LeBron asks for. If he joins this squad with PG and we simply make tweaks, hopefully re-sign Lopez for cheap, I’m all for it, gets us instantly back into relevance and probably makes us the 3rd best team in the West. I’m not wishing, wanting, hoping, or waiting on LeBron to save us though.
Are we sure that that would happen though? I mean honestly? I’m sure anyone would want that. But Lebron is very needy and I could definitely see him wanting Ball off the team and maybe some others he may feel may take it away from him like BI or Randle (if we sign him of course) just so he can run “his” system, maybe even eventually getting Luke fired.
I’m just not okay with the circus that comes with him and it’s not like it would change in one offseason and now he’s willing to play with a ball dominant player and also willing to work in a system where the ball is not in his hand 80% of the time and playing more in the post to become a more effective player, you know and stop trying to be 21 yr old Lebron.
If that was the case, then I wouldn’t be so adamant about him not coming here, but you and I and all of us on these boards know that that’s just not Lebron.
Look, I’m not one to defend LeBron, ever, but I don’t share most of these concerns with you. I do not think of anyone on this team he’d want Zo gone, one because he’s done nothing but praise the guy, but more importantly because Zo is the perfect type of player to put next to him. Zo is not ball dominant, he passes it as fast as he gets it most of the time. His basketball IQ would match LeBron’s very well, and the same way we see Kuz getting easy fast break layups from Zo outlet passes, we’d see with LeBron even more. The only thing is he’d HAVE to become a better shooter because he’d get a lot of open looks from 3 with LeBron. I don’t see LeBron waiting Ingram gone either as his length and defensive potential would help make up for LeBron as he declines in that area, and because Ingram is very good at cutting for easy baskets, and LeBron would find him for a lot of them. Same with Randle, would be a perfect small ball 5 next to LeBron, for switches on defense, and setting eachother up on the pick n roll for easy dunks.
My main concern is losing underappreciated players like Hart to bring in more vets to appease LeBron, but even that might not be an issue if he actually played with the guy and quickly saw how smart and capable he is. The circus that follows LeBron, meh, I’m not a big fan of it, but it’s been far too long since we’ve had a circus in LA (not really since Shaq) and it’s probably about time again. It’d be nice to have people, the media, and other teams hate us again, not for being a joke, but for being good and them being jealous. LeBron instantly brings that, any team he goes to becomes a playoff team at minimum.
I will concede that while I despise the C Bags and their fans, I don’t find this current roster nearly as loathsome as the last one. I genuinely hated that group. Perkins, Rondo, Allen, Davis (DAVIS!!!). There’s nothing like that on this C Bags team. I don’t like Kyrie, but he’s no Glenn friggin Davis. Having said that, it’s the same fans. And I want them all to be miserable for the rest of their lives, if possible. Now, returning to LeBron...
That's cool..you do you. But real quick, do me a favor....type in "LeBron" and then type in the dreaded "C word" and see what shows up in your post. There's a reason for that.
You are definitely in the minority my friend....and franklythe drama of LeBronmania has already hit the city of Los Angeles, or were you not here for the "Star Wars" among Shaq, Kobe and Phil? The practice brawls, the contract demands, the trade demands, the snitching, the court cases, the wife/girlfriend/fiance/side piece wars, etc. There have been plenty of antics in the purple and gold that have not involved LeBron...so this fan base and this city are ready for any drama that's to come. Lavar was light work. LeBron is page 6 material.
My issue isn't with fans having a problem with LeBron. I can't care less about that. My issue is being the best franchise in all the land...and if you ain't hating the dudes in front of us, then you don't want it bad enough.
I guess it depends on what your definition of minority is. According to the poll on this thread 50% of us don’t want LeBron.
I get people love him, want him, want to win again. I’ve got to say I get tired of being told I’m not a fan if I don’t want this guy on our team though. Just because we don’t want him doesn’t mean we are wrong anymore then you wanting him makes you right.
Did I once say that? I don't understand how a Lakers fan can hate Bron more than the Cbags. Cbags have done us dirty a number of times. Bron..not so much. You understand the difference, right?
You would absolutely be in the minority if you claim you have more hate for Bron over the C Bags among fellow Laker fans.
And for the record, my plan A wouldn't even involve Bron (or PG). I would figure out a way to trade for AD (while retaining as much of the young core as possible) and add Kawhi in 2019 free agency. But beggars can't be choosers, so you don't have to twist my arm much if its Bron/PG instead.
So lets be clear. You're still a Lakers fan no matter how you feel about Bron.
And you're still a fan if you hate Bron more than the C Bags. But in this case, you'll be a fan without their Lakers card.
1st rule of Lakers fan: you do not talk about hating something more than the Cbags
2nd rule of Lakers fan: you DO NOT talk about hating something more than the Cbags
Can't even believe this is being discussed.
Yes in this same post. I realize in this particular post you do say I can still be a fan but I guess I won’t have “a Laker card”.
I hate the the Bird, KG C Bags. This new group is not my favorite and I certainly don’t want them to win another chip before us. For me, they don’t warrant the same level of disgust as C bag teams before them. I know you disagree and that fine. You said early in another post that you hate teams. I hate individuals on teams, ie. Lebron. I think that’s one of the big differences in our thinking. I hate the Rockets but that’s because of Harden and CP3. I love Ariza. Just because he plays for for them, I’m not writing him off.
Once again, I just want to hate on Lebron in peace. I don’t tell people they can’t hate on the C Bags. Don’t rag on people everytime they hate on Lebron.