LABron James Discussion: 21st Season - Setting New Standards

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  1. BigDan24

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  2. therealdeal

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    Does anyone like stats that aren't in there favor?
     
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    Yes, I know some numbers show me where I can improve.

    In the example given of average speed, I agree that average speed seems to be pretty irrelevant vs results.

    He loafs his fair share, but it obviously doesn’t impact results as much as that might suggest

    ***because I’m fair like that***
     
  4. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

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    I understand that stats that aren't in your favor can be useful.

    But do you like those stats? If you do, I'd argue that you're the weirdo. :D
     
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    :KobewaitingTW::KobeConfused:Is there's any possibility that both LeBron and C Bags will lose tonight.I don't want any of them in the finals
     
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    I’m not sure anybody likes stats that appear to be unfavorable, but we can still embrace them and their value.
     
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    Ball, George, Ingram, James and Kuzma. Can this team win it all next year?
     
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    Absolutely not.
     
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    Next year? Probably not. They could make the Western Conference Finals though. And the year after they would have a very solid shot. The problem with that lineup is who is our rim protector?
     
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    Also needs some more 3 point shooters.
     
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    Ball, Ingram, PG, Lebron, Lopez, Randle, Kuz, Hart, Frye and a vet backup Point Guard might be able to.
     
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    no

    and that's too small of a lineup. need someone who can pull down rebounds and block shots
     
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    Yeah... Insert Randle/Lopez/<some sort of Zaza/Noel/whatever> @ C there and we are golden... as much as I hate to admit it.
     
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    Well Ball would have to come around, but the rest already are shooters.

    Ingram- 39%
    George- 40%
    LeBron- 36%
    Kuzma- 37%

    That'll work. Ball just needs to be in that respectable 35% range which I think would be fine. Honestly, if you replace Kuzma in that lineup with Lopez who is a 33-34% shooter from outside, I think it's a hell of a starting lineup. It would definitely be a competitor for the WCF.
     
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    PG: Ball, Ennis
    SG: George, Hart
    SF: Ingram, [who cares as PG will ultimately be the backup SF]
    PF: Lebron, Kuzma
    C: B. Lopez, Zubac, T. Bryant

    Add in a rookie guard/rookie big via #25/#47
    Add in a couple obligatory aging vets signing for the minimum looking to ride the coattails to a title
    Add in a couple randos (like Wear/GP2/Caruso this year) signing for the vet min as cheap depth

    And....

    Probably not but hey, they'll certainly make it compelling.
     
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    IMO, to hang with Golden State you need a minimum of two 40%+ 3 point shooters. PG barely qualifies. Maybe Ingram comes back this year deadly from range. I hope so. Maybe Kuz too. They both have that potential. But right now, that team would be light on shooting.
     
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    I mean 39% is about as close as you can get. :D

    I think the key to sticking with Golden State is being able to match up defensively. I don't mean one-on-one locking anybody down, because we all know no one can do that. I mean being able to switch screens and make them take tough shots. The lineup of Ball/Ingram/George/Kuzma/LeBron can do that I think. Somebody would have to emerge as the rim protector though.
     
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    They should, so they can fix them.
     
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    How about all 4 teams lose.

    Just cancel the rest of the playoffs and vacate the title. We’ll get it back next year!
     
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