2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by LaVarBallsDad, Jan 5, 2017.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. EddieEddie

    EddieEddie - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    990
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    @vasashi17 No worries. Just friendly back and forth discussion and it's nice to see someone as into the salary cap talk as I am.

    That's crafty planning but the bolded/underlined portion is where it falters. Once the Lakers renounce/Wear and Ingram, they go right back to 10 roster spots. So even though they gain 3.3M in cap space by removing their cap holds, the team loses 1.66M in cap space because 2 roster charges are created in their place. So the team would only gain the difference in cap space, moving the needle from 26M to 27.64M.

    If the Lakers really were that adamant about freeing up 2 MAX roster slots - for PG/Cousins, not Lebron because obviously he'd be notably more - they could just waive all 3 team options and trade their 1st rounder for a future 1st rounder. These 4 moves, while not ideal and seriously undercutting the Lakers' depth, would free up the necessary cap space to be able to offer PG and Cousins (or someone else with less than 10 years experience in the NBA) the MAX.

    In the end, the best way for the Lakers to free up the type of cap flexibility to do the things they hope to do in terms of making big time moves this summer is to dump Deng, not stretch him. Whether it's in a salary dump or somehow convincing one of OKC, CLE or NO to take him back in a sign and trade. Which would obviously require some very legit assets being attached to him because taking on Deng is a negative transaction and worse than just letting their star free agent leave for nothing.
     
  2. Lakeshow85

    Lakeshow85 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2016
    Messages:
    715
    Likes Received:
    1,346
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Offline
    Brown does make sense. There will be a logjam once Hayward returns. Unfortunately Brown is the odd man out.
     
  3. SmoothOperator

    SmoothOperator - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2014
    Messages:
    992
    Likes Received:
    2,189
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    Earlier this week, When DeMarcus Cousins unfollowed the Pelicans on instagram and immediately started following Paul George, Julius Randle and Isaiah Thomas.

    I gotta believe he’s just trying to use the Lakers as leverage to get the Pelicans to give him a max contract
     
  4. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,865
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    No way BOS does that. Not BOTH Tatum and Brown.

    Without thinking about it too deeply the C's just for Kat would have to likely give up: Either Tatum and Brown, Horford, Rozier, and 1st Round Pick, and maybe another 1st.

    If I was BOS, I would definitely do that deal but would want to give up Brown instead of Tatum. I just don't think MIN does that but that's an insane lineup of youth:

    PG: Irving
    SG: Tatum
    SF: Hayward
    PF: Morris
    C: Towns
     
  5. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,591
    Likes Received:
    20,201
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
  6. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,915
    Likes Received:
    13,649
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i dont think its wise for anyone to offer him max, nop is screwed
     
  7. EddieEddie

    EddieEddie - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    990
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    Well, if Cousins is insistent on the max, then New Orleans has an excuse for when they let him leave as a free agent. That he was all about the $. The Pelicans are frankly better off not saddling themselves with that massive contract and can go forward with a fairly solid PF/C tandem as is with Mirotic/Brow and use that $ towards re-signing Rondo.
     
    sirronstuff and Cookie like this.
  8. lakerfan2

    lakerfan2 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    5,220
    Likes Received:
    10,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Offline
    Hey Boogie, if NO doesn't give you max, how about a 1+1 max deal if we can't land Lebron/PG?
     
    Khmrp likes this.
  9. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,591
    Likes Received:
    20,201
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
     
    alam1108 likes this.
  10. Barnstable

    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2014
    Messages:
    7,119
    Likes Received:
    17,931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    So they are offering him the Supermax? I thought it was still questionable if they would because of the injury/“I don’t want to be here”
     
    TIME likes this.
  11. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,075
    Likes Received:
    22,727
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    sign and trade
     
  12. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,915
    Likes Received:
    13,649
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Leonard cant get super max in a S&T, he have to sign and then wait out the moritorium after fa signing before they can be traded and at that pt why would SA be obliged to trade him after giving him super max?
     
    therealdeal likes this.
  13. EddieEddie

    EddieEddie - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    990
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    The conversation for Buford/Leonard should be simple:

    Buford: If we offer you the supermax, will you accept?
    Leonard: Yes
    Buford: Cool

    OR

    Buford: If we offer you the supermax, will you accept?
    Leonard: No
    Buford: Ok then. We're going to trade you.
    Leonard: Cool.
     
    Cookie and Battle Tested20 like this.
  14. fabfourlakers

    fabfourlakers - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Messages:
    3,432
    Likes Received:
    7,823
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I really don't want to trade for Kawhi because there's so many red flags with how he handled the situation with the Spurs all year.

    Either he was really injured and it's a risk to trade for him due to that injury...or he was NOT injured and he just refused to play because he wanted to get traded or whatever. Both situations are bad. I would say we wait this one out...no reason to give up a bunch of our young core for him.

    I would do Ingram and Deng for him. That's it. Nothing more. Then find a way to re-sign Randle, and get PG/LeBron...

    Randle
    LeBron
    Kawhi
    PG13
    Zo

    Bench:
    Kuzma
    Hart
    Zu
    Lopez?
     
    SamsonMiodek likes this.
  15. EddieEddie

    EddieEddie - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    990
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    Which the Spurs wouldn't do
     
  16. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,865
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    I don't know if I'd select him with our #25 pick but as far as a backup PG I can't think of a safer bet around that range of picks and this is one of the positions we're going to need to improve this off-season.



    I think those are great comparisons too.
     
  17. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,591
    Likes Received:
    20,201
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
     
  18. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    34,791
    Likes Received:
    58,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Is he [​IMG] ? Why is MN less happy with him now apparently? Thibs?
     
    JohnnyComeLately2k6 likes this.
  19. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He was not good defensively all year long and that really pissed off the Wolves who kept trying to put him situations to succeed. He never figured it out.
     
  20. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    34,791
    Likes Received:
    58,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    :ShaqOh2:

    Wow! We really did draft the better player in Russell. Dodged those big stiffs in Towns and Okafor.

    :Crazyartest:

    Oh wait ... never mind.


    :Kareemlook:
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page