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    I'd rather have any of those names than the garbage man nonsense we've got behind Kershaw. McCarthy is a journeyman, Ryu is done being a factor, Urias is back down in the minors, Wood is at best a 5th starter on any team. Look at the rotations of the Mets and the Cubs. With the highest payroll in the MLB, we should have something comparable. Leaning on your pen all year is a good way to lose them.

    You go ahead and keep plugging with these loser pitchers. We're not winning a title with this pitching staff.
     
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    I'm not a big Dodgers fan, but this pitching staff is a joke. I have no idea how the prognosticators had them winning the World Series. Didn't they have a shot at Chris Sale a while back and they refused to trade Urias and another prospect? Kershaw and Sale in a playoff series with that bullpen makes you scary as hell.
     
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    I'm very, very high on Urias but yeah I would probably make that deal. I want to win now. We've got Kershaw, one of the greatest pitchers of all time, in his prime! It's a travesty that we're not putting a team around him capable of winning. The owners of the Dodgers care more about maximizing profit centers than they do winning a title.
     
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    I can't say that. They are spending money...I think they are just so scared of giving up too much of the farm. But you have a shot right now and Sale for Urias and a couple other prospects would have made the Dodgers insane.
     
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    They're spending dead money. The concept that the Dodgers would become the Yankees + farm knowledge was a farce. They've got the money they could have bought in consecutive seasons Greinke back, maybe Cueto, maybe Price. You could have broke the bank for them and continued to supplement your farm with savvy moves. Instead they overpaid guys like Kazmir and McCarthy. I know Cueto and Greinke and Price haven't exactly blown people away after their signings, but I'd rather have them than Alex Wood.

    When you've got the horses to win the race, go win the race. Worry about what comes next after you win the race.
     
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    I'm agreeing with you. It's almost like the goal of the franchise is to have the awesome farm system rather than a World Series ring. Then they sign a couple of average to good players for the same price they could have signed a real difference maker. I always go back to what Dr. Buss said to Kobe when he was demanding a trade. It's better to have one giant diamond than a few small ones.
     
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    Yeah I think their whole thing is "isn't it better to have a farm system that's stacked so we've got a well to go to?"

    And my answer is: do both. You have the means to pay for a winner while you also rebuild the farm system and instead they're allocating money in a stupid way. If we're willing to go to 4/48 on McCarthy and 4/48 on Kazmir, just put those together and get a better pitcher. I'd rather have an ace, a good second starter, a decent third, and then a couple crappy 4/5s if we have to. Instead we've got an ace and a group of crappy journeymen.
     
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    I feel like you almost need two aces. Kershaw MUST win 3 starts in a 7 game series and even then you will still need to grind out a win with a regular season innings-filler at some point. Then consider that Kershaw will only be able to pitch twice in the World series if he wins all 3 in the NLCS...This is a pitching staff built for the regular season to get 90 wins and into the playoffs.
     
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    You're speaking my language...

    I just don't trust this FO to do what needs to be done to win a title. They've never really been all-in on winning. They were supposed to combine the small market sensibility with the big market opportunities in a positive way, but instead we're just "pretty good" and we're never going to be "great".
     
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    That all could change though if a big time pitcher and someone that can actually hit lefties becomes available at the deadline. They would have the assets to pull off the deals, but would they try? I thought for sure they'd make a run at Ryan Braun this last offseason. Regardless, I'm a Cubs fan since a young age (Dad grew up in the Midwest and forced it on me), but I know more about the Dodgers because of local radio. So if they want to continue to run the team this way and never take an actual shot, it's fine by me.
     

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