after lin took him to hole, he points to his eyes while backing lin across centerline. Paul sets up play to run lin right into Jordan elbow and blind screen. Dirty? Or just good ol fashioned competiton? Already know he pushes off with left hand to get free on offense (no call).
Chris Paul's dirtiest tricks are his flops. Everything else he does I think is fairly within "competitive" limits. He's a little dirty, but most of the greats are. Kobe is super dirty with his old man tricks. That doesn't mean Kobe will try to hurt you on purpose, but he'll pin your arm down and he'll hold your jersey, and he'll set a blind pick. I don't have problems with those really. If the defender lets it happen, that's his problem. Say something about it, not just to the refs but to Paul too. The flopping though... that's the dirtiest thing he does. It's so dirty he's made the NBA worse because of it.
Flop isn't dirty. Kobe throws elbows to create space. Yes. Running a player into a blind pick because you just got worked by a flash in the pan - dirty.
A pick is a pick. It's on your teammates to call them for you. If you get caught by the pick, blame your teammate. If the guy setting the pick throws an elbow or a hip out, that's on the screener, but otherwise it's on your teammate. Taking a pick that your teammate sets is dirty but flopping and ruining the integrity of the game isn't?
I watched the game. I don't know which pick you're referring to exactly, but I don't call that dirty on Paul's part. If it was a dirty screen that's on DeAndre Jordan.
But we're kind of arguing semantics here aren't we? I agreed he's kind of a dirty player already and that's what you asked originally. I just don't know that I blame him for screens. I blame HIM for elbows and hitting defenders' hands down and that kind of stuff. But for screens, that's on the defenders and on the screener themselves.
Kobe has been among the league leaders in free throw attempts almost every complete season he's played going back years.
^ And yet the point still remains that as many foul calls is he does get there could be even more. Especially the last few years I've seen Kobe take way more contact and get less calls than Paul, Harden, and the rest of the newer age players. Just for fun watch Lin play tonight and compare him to Dragic or Bledsoe or Thomas in terms of how much contact it takes to justify a foul. A few days ago Lin was knocked from mid-air and got no call while Jamal Crawford went parading to the free throw line on hand fouls.
Yep. Some players just don't get calls. Yao Ming also didn't get a lot of calls because of his sheer size. Derrick Rose also didn't get calls because he was so strong and "magically" avoided contact in air. Yes, he has a ton of body control but the dude is trying to make the shot unlike Harden, who creates contact for the sake of creating contact. Durant also gets rewarded for the slightest touch. The complete lack of consistency by the refs is so annoying and frustrating.
Btw, James Harden leads the league in free throw attemps at 13.5. Nr.2 is DeRozan with 10.7. That's a difference of almost 3 attemps per game from pos 1-2. 3 attemps less than DeRozan is Klay Thompson with 7.7 and he is at pos 20... It's ridiculous how many calls Harden gets....
Cp3 is modern day..van excel. Ok a bit more skilled. Cp3 is doing great with clips but will never win a championship. He's just not a winner.
Paul punched a guy in the crotch in a game in his college days, so yes, he's dirty. I also consider his style of flopping to be dirty, he fakes contact to gain an advantage, cheating is dirty.
