2019 Oakland Raiders Discussion

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    Maybe, but he's likely to miss his rookie year. Torn meniscus in private workout.
     
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    Summary of moves so far...

    1. Selecting Kolton Miller at 15.
    2. Trading 10 for the 15, 79, and 152
    3. Trading 79 for Martavis Bryan.
    4. Trading #41 for #57 and #89.
    5. Selecting PJ Hall at 57.
    6. Trading 75, 152, and 212 for 65.
    7. Selecting Brandon Parker at 65.
    8. Trading 87 for 89 and 217.
    9. Selecting Arden Key at 87.
    10. Selecting Nick Nelson at 110.
    11. Trading 159 and 185 for 140.
    12. Selecting Maurice Hurst at 140.
    13. Selecting Johnny Townsend at 173.
     
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    Johnny Townsend, at 173, the highest gross among punters for the past two seasons. Big leg.
     
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    Moves so far...
    1. Selecting Kolton Miller at 15.
    2. Trading 10 for the 15, 79, and 152
    3. Trading 79 for Martavis Bryant.
    4. Trading #41 for #57 and #89.
    5. Selecting PJ Hall at 57.
    6. Trading 75, 152, and 212 for 65.
    7. Selecting Brandon Parker at 65.
    8. Trading 87 for 89 and 217.
    9. Selecting Arden Key at 87.
    10. Selecting Nick Nelson at 110.
    11. Trading 159 and 185 for 140.
    12. Selecting Maurice Hurst at 140.
    13. Selecting Johnny Townsend at 173.

    1. Selecting Kolton Miller at 15.
    Floor/Ceiling: C-/A
    Need: B
    Value: C-
    Overall: C+

    2. Trading 10 for the 15, 79, and 152
    Value Out: 299
    Value In: 440.8
    Overall: A

    3. Trading 79 for Martavis Bryant.
    You might say the Raiders could have gotten him for less and locked him up for longer. Perhaps.
    Overall: B

    4. Trading #41 for #57 and #89.
    Value Out: 160.8
    Value In: 242
    Overall: A

    5. Selecting PJ Hall at 57.
    Floor/Ceiling: D/A-
    Need: A
    Value: C
    Overall: B-

    6. Trading 75, 152, and 212 for 65.
    Value Out: 215.9
    Value In: 128.0
    Overall: F

    7. Selecting Brandon Parker at 65.
    Floor/Ceiling: D-/B-
    Need: B
    Value: D
    Overall: C-

    8. Trading 87 for 89 and 217.
    Value Out: 138.3
    Value In: 106.2
    Overall: D

    9. Selecting Arden Key at 87.
    Floor/Ceiling: C/B+
    Need: A
    Value: A
    Overall: B+

    10. Selecting Nick Nelson at 110.
    Floor/Ceiling: C/B
    Need: A
    Value: A
    Overall: B+

    11. Trading 159 and 185 for 140.
    Value Out: 105.5
    Value In: 69.2
    Overall: F

    12. Selecting Maurice Hurst at 140.
    Floor/Ceiling: F/B+
    Need: A
    Value: C
    Overall: C+

    13. Selecting Johnny Townsend at 173.
    Floor/Ceiling: D/B
    Need: B
    Value: D
    Overall: C
     
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    Chiefs took McKenzie...a-holes.
     
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    Spite perhaps?
     
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    Azeem Victor - not sure what the Raiders see - unless it's the player prior to the 2017 season.
     
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    Marcell Ateman, WR, OSU
    Looks solid from what I've seen. Good against the press...
     
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    Jihad Ward swapped for Ryan Switzer - who can fly. Nice move, I think.
     
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    Let's get bold here. Which draft selection (not trade product) do you think will make the most impact THIS SEASON?

    I'm going with Miller, who will start. That might be too easy.

    Second biggest impact? Hall or Key.
     
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    Mayock and Davis really liked this pick for us...thought we stole one. Though they were quick to point Ateman doesn't have that gear to separate himself from coverage, they both lauded his talent to shield defenders with his large frame making him a viable target.

    Sign Bowman!
     
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    Miller with our void at right tackle should start unless he really bombs which I don't think it'll happen. Second choice? Key if he makes the cut. He'd be hell off the edge.

    Sign Bowman!
     
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    Agree...now we don't have to have one of our scatbacks returning punts. From what I saw of Switzer in Dallas, he is elusive in evading tacklers. He gets in open space, goodbye!

    Sign Bowman!
     
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    Hoping we can find a way to dump Roberts and free up some space. We definitely need a starting LB.
     
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    UDFAs
    Jason Cabinda, LB, PSU
    Eddy Piniero, K, UF
    Marcus Baught, TE, Ohio State
    Saeed Blacknall, WR, PSU

    I'm a big fan of the UDFAs. Oakland does a nice job of adding at least one player who has a chance to contribute through this process.
     
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    Developing Thoughts...

    Kolton Miller
    6'8" 310#, OT, UCLA
    Best highlights clip:
    Thoughts on where he is: NFL rotation player
    Thoughts on ceiling: He's huge and athletic enough to be a potential franchise LT, but there's a lot of work to be done.
    -He has some flaws that you expect to see from a player who's massive compared to his competition. He also has some of the issues you'd expect to see from a generally gigantic dude. But he has a ton of talent, is an excellent athlete.

    Check this out:

    Nate Solder vs. Kolton Miller
    6'8" Height 6'9"
    319
    Weight 310
    4.96 40-time 4.95
    21 Reps 24
    110" Broad Jump 121"
    4.34
    Shuttle 4.49
    7.44 3-cone 7.34
    32"
    vertical 31.5"
    --His physical profile is eerily similar to Solder's, but he's arguably more athletic and a bit stronger coming into the league. Solder has posted an AV of 10+ in four of his seven seasons, and he hit 8+ in two more. In fact, with 60 AV in 98 career games, he's kicking a**.
     
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    The injury apparently not serious, will miss off-season programs but will be ready by training camp. All of a sudden, we have a bushel of corners although one is ancient (Hall) and another (Worley) looks like an arrest waiting to happen.

    Sign Bowman!
     
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    Cabinda...left as all-time Top 10 tackler in PSU history. Hmmm.

    Sign Bowman!
     
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    I think anyone we add to help put pressure on the QB. Mack is amazing but we lacked true attack on the QB for me. and someone, anyone, for the love of God that can hold onto the damn ball.
     
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