Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by LaVarBallsDad, Nov 16, 2015.

  1. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    The Vertical's Top 100 Free Agents (Underlined = Changed Teams)

    1. SF Kevin Durant, 27 - Golden State, 2 years, $54.3M
    2. SF/PF LeBron James, 31
    3. PG/SG Dwyane Wade, 34
    4. SG DeMar DeRozan, 26 - Toronto, 5 years, $139M
    5. C Andre Drummond, restricted, 22 - Detroit, 5 years, $130M
    6. C Al Horford, 30 - Boston, 4 years, $113M
    7. SF Nicolas Batum, 27 - Charlotte, 5 years, $120M
    8. C Hassan Whiteside, 27 - Miami, 4 years, $98M
    9. PG Mike Conley, 28 - Memphis, 5 years, $153M
    10. SG Bradley Beal, restricted, 23 - Washington, 5 years, $128M

    11. PF/C Pau Gasol, 35 - San Antonio, 2 years, $30M
    12. PF Ryan Anderson, 28 - Houston, 4 years, $80M
    13. SG/SF Evan Fournier, restricted, 23 - Orlando, 5 years, $85M
    14. PF Dirk Nowitzki, 38 - Dallas, 2 years, $40M
    15. SF Chandler Parsons, 27 - Memphis, 4 years, $94M
    16. C Dwight Howard, 30 - Atlanta, 3 years, $70M
    17. SF Harrison Barnes, restricted, 24 - Dallas, 4 years, $94M (offer sheet)
    18. PF/C Al Jefferson, 31 - Indiana, 3 years, $30M
    19. SG Jordan Clarkson, restricted, 24 - Lakers, 4 years, $50M
    20. C Joakim Noah, 31 - New York, 4 years, $72M

    21. SG/SF Kent Bazemore, 26 - Atlanta, 4 years, $70M
    22. SG Courtney Lee, 30 - New York, 4 years, $54M
    23. C Bismack Biyombo, 23 - Orlando, 4 years, $72M
    24. PF David West, 35
    25. PG Rajon Rondo, 30 - Chicago, 2 years, $28M
    26. SF/PF Marvin Williams, 30 - Charlotte, 4 years, $54M
    27. SG Allen Crabbe, restricted, 24
    28. SF Luol Deng, 31 - Lakers, 4 years, $72M
    29. PG Deron Williams, 32 - Dallas, 1 year, $10M
    30. PG/SG Jeremy Lin, 27 - Brooklyn, 3 years, $36M
    31. SG/SF Evan Turner, 27 - Portland, 4 years, $70M
    32. PF Jared Sullinger, restricted, 24
    33. SG Gerald Henderson, 28 - Sixers, 2 years, $18M
    34. C Zaza Pachulia, 32 - Golden State, 1 year, $2.9M
    35. PF/C Meyers Leonard, restricted, 24
    36. PF Terrence Jones, 24
    37. SG/PG Eric Gordon, 27 - Houston, 4 years, $53M
    38. SG/SF J.R. Smith, 30
    39. PF Mirza Teletovic, 30 - Milwaukee, 3 years, $30M
    40. PG/SG Matthew Dellavedova, restricted, 25 - Milwaukee, 4 years, $38M

    41. PG/SG Austin Rivers, 23 - Clippers, 3 years, $35M
    42. C Tyler Zeller, restricted, 26
    43. C Ian Mahinmi, 29 - Washington, 4 years, $64M
    44. C Timofey Mozgov, 29 - Lakers, 4 years, $64M
    45. PF Donatas Motiejunas, restricted, 25
    46. C Festus Ezeli, restricted, 26
    47. F Jared Dudley, 30 - Phoenix, 3 years, $30M
    48. SG Dion Waiters, restricted, 24
    49. SG Tyler Johnson, restricted, 24 - Brooklyn, 4 years, $50M (offer sheet)
    50. SF/PF Jeff Green, 29 - Orlando, 1 year, $15M

    51. C Nene, 33
    52. PF/C Jason Smith, 30
    53. SG/SF Joe Johnson, 35 - Utah, 2 years, $22M
    54. SF Maurice Harkless, restricted, 23
    55. PF/C Jon Leuer, 27 - Detroit, 4 years, $42M
    56. SG Jamal Crawford, 36 - Clippers, 3 years, $42M
    57. SG Arron Afflalo, 30 - Sacramento, 2 years, $25M
    58. SF/PF Derrick Williams, 25
    59. PG Langston Galloway, restricted, 24
    60. SF Solomon Hill, 25 - New Orleans, 4 years, $52M

    61. PF Dwight Powell, restricted, 24 - Dallas, 4 years, $37M
    62. PF Kris Humphries, 31
    63. C Cole Aldrich, 27 - Minnesota, 3 years, $22M
    64. PF Luis Scola, 36
    65. SG Manu Ginobili, 38
    66. SF Wes Johnson, 28 - Clippers, 3 years, $18M
    67. C Marreese Speights, 28
    68. PG D.J. Augustin, 28 - Orlando, 4 years, $29M
    69. SF/LF Lance Thomas, 28
    70. PF Brandon Bass, 31

    71. PG Ish Smith, 27 - Detroit, 3 years, $18M
    72. C Boban Marjanovic, restricted, 27
    73. SF Richard Jefferson, 36
    74. PG Ramon Sessions, 30 - Charlotte, 2 years, $12.5M
    75. SG/SF Lance Stephenson, 25
    76. PG Brandon Jennings, 26 - New York, 1 years, $5M
    77. PF/C J.J. Hickson, 27
    78. PG/SG Jerryd Bayless, 27 - Philadelphia, 3 years, $27M
    79. PG Norris Cole, 27
    80. C Miles Plumlee, restricted, 27

    81. PF Josh Smith, 30
    82. PF Trevor Booker, 28 - Brooklyn, 2 years, $18M
    83. G Leandro Barbosa, 33
    84. SG/SF Alan Anderson, 33
    85. PG Raymond Felton, 32
    86. SG O.J. Mayo, 28 - Disqualified from NBA
    87. PG Ty Lawson, 28
    88. SF Matt Barnes, 36 - Sacramento, 2 years, $12M
    89. C Roy Hibbert, 29 - Charlotte, 1 year, $5M
    90. SF/PF Darrell Arthur, 28 - Denver, 3 years, $24M

    91. PG Seth Curry, 25 - Dallas, 2 years, $6M
    92. PG Aaron Brooks, 31
    93. PF David Lee, 33
    94. SG Ian Clark, restricted, 25
    95. PG/SG Greivis Vasquez, 29
    96. PF James McAdoo, restricted, 23
    97. SG/SF P.J. Hairston, 23
    98. SF Chase Budinger, 28
    99. PF/C Jordan Hill, 28
    100. PF/C Amare Stoudemire, 33

    Courtesy GT from LG.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 5, 2016
  2. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    We've danced around this for a while. Easily my favorite target outside of Durant is Barnes. Love his game and I think he'd be a great fit as a 3&D who can be more if we need it. Not to mention he'll only be 24 next summer. We'd have built a team around 20, 22, and 24 year old players. If we're fortunate they'll have a solid decade of playing together.

    After Barnes it's probably Batum for me. He'll be 27 next summer and he'd provide a good veteran presence while still being young enough to grow with our core group. Good outside shooter and defender which is exactly what we need.

    I'm a little scared of Parsons' microfracture surgery on his knees. Derozan is a decent addition but his lack of an outside shot is pretty damning.

    My ideal off-season starting right now: throw a ton of money at Barnes (could even go as high as max to scare off GSW). Re-sign Hibbert. Re-sign Clarkson. Replace Byron with a more competent coach. Re-sign Huertas. Bring up Upshaw if he's closer to ready.

    Russell/Huertas
    Clarkson/Williams
    Barnes/Young
    Randle/Nance Jr.
    Hibbert/Upshaw/Black
     
  3. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,498
    Likes Received:
    37,006
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    2nd post and Real already outlined it perfectly.

    Ideally we get a new competent coach, I'd like for an out of the box hire.

    Hibbert, Clarkson and Harrison Barnes are top priority (KD is pipe at this point). We'll be a solid young team with a good mix of seasoned players and guys just barely getting their legs wet.

    The team is essentially already there just need to go big on one of the available SF free agents. Fingers crossed that we can finally get one of the better ones and not have to settle with Jeff Green.
     
  4. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2014
    Messages:
    2,571
    Likes Received:
    11,517
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Doctorin'
    Location:
    Hill Valley
    Offline
    Barnes is a pipe dream not even worth talking about. GSW has a team they can run to the Finals for the next 5 years or more. They aren't breaking it up.
     
  5. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Throw 22 million at him and dare them to match. If they do fine. It's not like Batum is running anywhere when there's that kind of money at stake.
     
    KareemtheGreat33 and Barnstable like this.
  6. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,317
    Likes Received:
    64,046
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    If only Drummond wasn't restricted. :SadPau2:

    Honestly I'm not even excited about free agency. We're not in a spot where we can attract great free agents. Players aren't going to leave their contending/championship teams to come on to a rebuilding project either.

    I'm not saying Batum wouldn't be a good get, but he's not a player that's easy to get giddy about with the players out there next free agency. And a player like that isn't even a guarantee when every single team will have money to throw around.

    I'd be infinitely more excited about a draft thread than a FA thread if we had a good chance of keeping our pick. It's not out of the question with Scott behind the wheel, but if that's the route we're going, we'll be sweating until ping pong ball night.
     
    Weezy likes this.
  7. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'm not into tanking this year. We did that last year, and I'm moving past that. We have enough projects and players on rookie deals that we've stockpiled enough cheap talent to our roster. Next year is the time to keep adding talent and continuing to develop our core,
     
    Barnstable likes this.
  8. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,317
    Likes Received:
    64,046
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'm not suggesting tanking, but we're a subpar team nearly every night with the worst coach currently on a NBA bench. We're going to be a bottom dweller yet again, but unless the basketball gods do us a favor, we won't reap any benefits of sucking. At least with the losing you could see another lotto pick as some sort of silver lining, but that probably won't happen. And we'll be stuck begging 3rd tier FAs to come here on absurd contracts.
     
  9. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Got it. Byron and Kobe will be gone next year. As I noted, we'll have to spend the money next year for better or worse. Resign Hilbert, Clarkson, grab a Baum like player to fill your wing need, a backup rim protecting, big and fill out the rest of our roster. We're missing the PO's this year, and I strong doubt, that we'll stand pat next year knowing that Jim is on a deadline, and we need to see some progress made.
     
  10. ElginTheGreat

    ElginTheGreat - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Messages:
    10,209
    Likes Received:
    28,409
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Batum is an interesting guy who I think we would have a legit shot at. My concern would be him wanting to play with a real contender.
     
  11. EJones06

    EJones06 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2015
    Messages:
    219
    Likes Received:
    465
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    Assuming we don't get Durant, Barnes, or Derozan, I wouldn't be opposed to throwing a big deal at Mike Conley. I get that we have a lot of guards, but I think his two way ability makes him extremely valuable. Phoenix was able to parlay a three guard rotation of Dragic, Thomas, and Bledsoe into a pretty decent squad through trades. I think we could do the same. At this point I just want as much talent as possible...especially considering we have very little semblance of a basketball system in place on the court anyways.
     
    LaVarBallsDad likes this.
  12. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,058
    Likes Received:
    22,716
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    Real nailed it. Barnes, make him the franchise player.
     
  13. lakersyunowin

    lakersyunowin - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,329
    Likes Received:
    2,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'm not as high on Harrison Barnes as some of you guys are. He's good, but not as good as some of you are implying.
     
    johnnyboy likes this.
  14. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    17,890
    Likes Received:
    72,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    Maybe it's not so much about Barnes alone as much as it is him possibly being the final piece to the starters. The real young and athletic SF we are missing. You add Barnes to Russ, JC, Randle and Hibbert, you have something decent building.
     
  15. Lakers2015

    Lakers2015 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Messages:
    3,634
    Likes Received:
    6,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He's a terrific defender, can stretch the floor, can slash, post up, has shown he can play off stars, and would be the perfect three man for us. I doubt he leaves GS though.
     
    Barnstable likes this.
  16. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,498
    Likes Received:
    37,006
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    It's the fact that he's a perfect fit with Randle, Clarkson, Russell and hopefully Hibbert. Gives that line up another defender, a 3 point threat and a guy that doesn't need the ball to be effective. Throw a guy like KD in that mix and you have 4 players that needs the ball to be effective. Derozan is not that great a floor spacer, great athlete to run with our young guns though.
     
    therealdeal and ElginTheGreat like this.
  17. lakersyunowin

    lakersyunowin - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,329
    Likes Received:
    2,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Gotcha. I guess I just reacted to Barnes being next to the words "franchise player."
     
  18. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I think you'd have to pay him like one to be able to get him out of GS. That's the only reason his name is next to that phrase. You still build around probably Randle as your "go-to" star and Russell as your orchestrator.
     
  19. TheGreatOneKobe

    TheGreatOneKobe - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2015
    Messages:
    353
    Likes Received:
    431
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    Wondering where this confidence that we will land a good FA is coming from?...must be the outrageous success we've had in the past few years.

    2016 is all about the draft....again.
     
  20. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    We are unlikely to keep that pick even if we're one of the worst teams in the league. The confidence comes from necessity. That 60 million dollars is going somewhere and someone will be willing to take it. We're going to overpay for someone and end up with players in FA. The likelihood of that is a good 5-10 times that of us keeping our pick.
     
    LaVarBallsDad likes this.

Share This Page